rob

one is a desktop other is laptop but ok

i dont know how to do that shit

Its actually quite easy

give me a second Max

ok who wants to theoretically make DvZ in unityt with me kappa

And, then you're done

also

the link in the channel description doesnt work

bec he changed his name on twitch

Actually though, DvZ if changed very slightly, and made kinda differently, could really be a popular, and great game. Use cosmetics and maybe cosmetic lootboxes, perhaps like Rob did and "Titles" too. Maybe simple P2W stuff as well. Do it like Town of Salem though and make it so everyone can get in game "gold" and this gold can also be bought. It can be used on SMALL P2W things like starting near a place, or higher monster chance or something stupid like that. There's two walls I see with it though. The first is netcode since that's hard, requires servers too which is iffy unless its P2P which is bad for such a game. The second is the building. Mining is easy enough to make, but the building is something else I could see as a wall. Other than that though, the next biggest thing is balance and gameplay setup. Movement isn't tthat hard, textures can be shit who cares, Music can be stolen from rob. Hit detection isn't that hard if you have the time to test it.

Well

The netcode assumption is because of how many games have bad netcode, and that i've never done it before

Or just refuse to add it

Also @Dolfin why does the DvZ community dislike loadouts? like can you give me the general consensus reasons?

ok so

the thing isnt the load out itself i believe

Other than juice

its the items in it

Yeah okay

I think in concept loadouts are actually great for DvZ

Not in practice.

and how every single item

gives you a free out

like in the past 2 years

mob has straight not been fun

you cant be a skillful player in the game when every dwarf has a pocket proc

or a cross bow

Emerald Bow is the one item that the vetran players find unique and allright to be in the load out

aside from the Greater Runeblade

just remove its dash

Why is every game rob makes devolve into "this is kind of op, but op is fun so i'll keep it lol"

because

because fun is the name of the game to rob

if rob makes something op

his way of nerfing it is buffing everything else

hes even done it in urealms

s1 pyroblast was 30 damage if you had fireball

and in s3 23784352903 cards did 99 damage

Pyroblast wasn't in season 1 ya goof

it was?

Side quests if you count that as part of it

it was in the Bloodsnake Queen sidequest

lol

i say they are s1

1.5

still the point is made

Ok i figured out how to make monster fun

It was officially considered the season 2 deck

Just a test run for it

but it was still changed before

anyways the problem was that there was no learning curve

there was no reason to never use JJ

hell in the last few weeks everyone had trinket magic coil

and if you rolled res 2 which you had a 25% chance of getting you were legit unkillable

even a golem couldnt

a guy legit was in mobspawn when the golems doom event happened

didnt die

the last time mob was fun was before summer 2015

I agree with rob that monster should not be as strong as a dwarf, depending on the monster though. I feel like thinking about could one dwarf, lore wise fight this creature and win, is a good way to balance their strength, as well as reducing the amount of procs.

now im not saying equal

yes dwarf should beat a zombie

I think you have to decide a couple big questions about the game: How powerful should a dwarf feel? a player monster? an AI? How much skill should it take to play? How much building should there be? How long should an average game last and the standard deviation on that? How many players per round? How much content do you pump into the game? Number of weapons, items, mobs, heroes, etc

One dwarf should be able to take down a zombie. One is alive, one is a warrior, one is dead. One dwarf should not be able to take down a golem.

but if there are 3-4 zombies on 1 dwarf then the dwarf should start to get in trouble

And i think each of those decisions splits the current DvZ fanbase

hell

I feel like the way rob took "how much skill should it take" was poor.

I agree, I even think old Rob would agree

a dwarf could have 1v1ed KRUNGOR in the last few months

Krungor

But part of that is wanting the dwarfs to feel REALLY powerful

the ogre king that has an axe that deals 60 daamage

So even if you fuck up, or aren't paying attention you're fine

I think the way juice has worked sorta makes this hard to fix

One of the biggest skill recs in old DvZ was, your juice.

autocasting anything like that is dumb

I think if you had a first party DvZ client, a single button to take a swig would be best