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Yeah, and I can still say its the sources fault for existing

This is the fucking stupidest thing to argue over

(not directly related to what Max is saying) But Libertarians ruined Libertarianism for me They took charge of the ideology (the product) and made it retarded It's fine to stay home, and deal only in theory, and your own opinions But the product/ideology does take on some part of what it's fandom/base makes it

If undertale never existed, the shit people in its fandom still would

they were not born because undertale existed

Yeah, but they wouldnt directly effect me

yes they would

they would just be on a different game

No, you seem to think it is ONE mass of people

literally the only way to remove bad fandoms it to remove everything that could have a fandom

Max, Those people would act that way no matter what

but they would be split

and thebecause it wouldnt be as big

it wouldnt effect me

Things build critical mass as people go to it

it would. they would find something else to latch onto max

proof

You're just assuming how they work

I am not assuming

I want proof its the same people

PROVE IT THEN

and you are assuming they would all disperse

I am, but on the basis that tehre was no other games that people latched onto at that time

human behavior is your proof max

As an example of how people work

the biggest building blocks of these are YOUTUBERS, and no game, or product came out at those times to OVERWHELM THEM

these people only act like this because they were pre disposed to acting like this

There was nothing else to latch onto though

FROM THE SOURCE of the YOUTUBERS

they find something to latch onto and take it to their own limits

How are you still arguing about this

This is

What the fuck

remove youtube then

because pika likes to argue and dialga doesnt like me/doesnt like me insulting his fandom of ddlc

that is the source of your problem

clearly pika

it clearly is

that's not what i'm arguing max

no youtube and undertale/DDLC/fnaf does not explode

literally everything that becomes popular will get noticed by extremists

that's just how it is

I don't care about you insulting a fandom

thats actually true pika

Yes

dialga i was joking, no need to get offense

That is the fucking point I am making max

offensive*

you are calling games shit for their fandom because they are the source, but really, the source are the people promoting the games

but they are the source still

No other GAMES came out at those time that would CREATE those fandoms

the source isn't actively making the fandom

youtubers with large child fanbases playing shit (matpat) start trends (fnaf)

the source isn't malicious max

but it comes from it dialga

Because those games stole the spot first max

it still comes from it

but pika

the games would still exist

What blows up is a little bit of chance

youtubers would still pay them

and there was nothing else that would take the spotlight

you are also ignoring the youtube algorithm as a factor

certain things sometimes blow up for seemingly no reason

unless, youremaking the point that random indie game 4334 with no devolpment or polish would take the light

fnaf is a literal piece of shit

did you see how big that got

there will always be something max

it has polish though

and it works

Every fandom has it's own white knights too max

its enticing for children

so games should not be made with polish and should not work so no one would be invested in them

youre right dialga

but they dont overwhelmingly exist

no pika, im not saying that

yes you are

im just saying, that those games were the only ones like that at that time

what the fuck