general

you never stated those reasons

For which

your fandom argument is retarded

I have before dialga

if you mentioned actual legitimate reasons to call something bad no one would argue with you as much

It just adds to a reason to dislike it though.

Pika, when someone on the internet, says a load of dumb shit over the years, or shit that you don't like doesn't that make you less likely to enjoy engaging with them, or take them seriously when you do

They've poisoned their own brand, their image

Yes, so do not associate with a fandom that is shit

that is reasonable

taking the leap from shit fandom to shit product does not follow

the product just exists. it has nothing to do with the fandom

Maybe we are all just better at ignoring retards than max idk

My problem isnt that i cant ignore them

its that I don't like them

It's really weird seeing people you know comment on youtube videos

Okay, cool, still does not justify the step bad fandom to bad product

i dontlike their products, i dont like their material

if you don't like them then you ignore them

I dislike the fandoms of basically everything I like, does not stop me from liking what I like

the FANDOM comes from the SOURCE, and that BAD FANDOM creates BAD THINGS that I DO NOT LIKE, therefore the SOURCE is bad because it CREATES something i dislike, and like i said earlier, i have reasons as well as this to a multitude of sources i don't like. It's not like I HATE THIS PRODUCT FOR THAT REASON ALONE AND I CANT IGNORE ANYONE AAAAAH

it does not come from the source.

it is THERE because of the source

it's really stupid to think the devs can control what their fans will do

it would not exist without it

that's just dumb

Haven't you noticed bad fandoms move like a plague

I never said that fire

they would exist, they would just be on something else

YOu can't hold something accountable for just existing

it's what you're implying

Yes I can

I do that for niggers

fnaf went to undertale went to DDLC went to cuphead ect

it is almost like children being retards following trends

Yeah, and I can still say its the sources fault for existing

This is the fucking stupidest thing to argue over

(not directly related to what Max is saying) But Libertarians ruined Libertarianism for me They took charge of the ideology (the product) and made it retarded It's fine to stay home, and deal only in theory, and your own opinions But the product/ideology does take on some part of what it's fandom/base makes it

If undertale never existed, the shit people in its fandom still would

they were not born because undertale existed

yes they would

they would just be on a different game

No, you seem to think it is ONE mass of people

literally the only way to remove bad fandoms it to remove everything that could have a fandom

Max, Those people would act that way no matter what

but they would be split

and thebecause it wouldnt be as big

it wouldnt effect me

Things build critical mass as people go to it

it would. they would find something else to latch onto max

proof

You're just assuming how they work

I am not assuming

I want proof its the same people

PROVE IT THEN

and you are assuming they would all disperse

I am, but on the basis that tehre was no other games that people latched onto at that time

human behavior is your proof max

As an example of how people work

the biggest building blocks of these are YOUTUBERS, and no game, or product came out at those times to OVERWHELM THEM

these people only act like this because they were pre disposed to acting like this

There was nothing else to latch onto though

FROM THE SOURCE of the YOUTUBERS

they find something to latch onto and take it to their own limits

How are you still arguing about this

This is

What the fuck

remove youtube then

because pika likes to argue and dialga doesnt like me/doesnt like me insulting his fandom of ddlc

that is the source of your problem

clearly pika

it clearly is

that's not what i'm arguing max

since, its clearly a PROBLEM for me

no youtube and undertale/DDLC/fnaf does not explode

literally everything that becomes popular will get noticed by extremists

that's just how it is

I don't care about you insulting a fandom

thats actually true pika