spam

I was wrong

actually pretty consistant

You can donate for garbage, and fine, okay, but donating for no content?

it's donation culture

it's cancer

"I like this guy, therefore I will give him money"

It's the same thing Rob advocates for, investing in the """creator""" not the creation

Maybe it's actually just away for him to explain away his stolen creditcard money making scheme to the goverment as "youtube money"

lol, I like that theory a lot

Make a channel called creditcard confirm, and create a pateron for it, when peoples creditcards get charged for .99 cents if they even notice, it will just say it was for creditcard confirm! Stronks

him justifying his patreon

I know it's naiive, but I hope the next generation doesn't put up with this shit, and don't give their money away

I feel like it is only going to get worse

They spend there money on the fortnite skins and the private instagrams

also has this youtuber ever made any good videos

I have no idea who this is

and have never heard of them

If I remember correctly it was like C tier youtube content

It went from faceless charity ===> helping those less fortunate ===> to career begging

Nothing good, but it was something to have on in the background

I feel like for a year to make mauler would make something 10x as long and at least 3x as good

and his content is already autistically long

Look he making a very in-depth analysis of the top 100 hentais of the decade. This stuff takes time

It's me, being "out of touch" with the internet, I get it I hate this shit though, it's such a dirty manipulitive way to earn a living

and the worst part is, they think they deserve it

if it was actually an analysis of every single hentai made this decade

I would be fine with a year

The people who genuinly deserve compensation, are so few and far betweem

and are underserved by platforms like Patreon and wherever else

I almost feel like having to watch every hentai 1+ times alone would take several months

which reward ebegging, over actual content creation

yeah

fully agree spooky

also buy jims hat

The problem which has failed to be solved, is how to assign value to the content you view online

yeah

I liked the initial idea of flattr, when it was launched 10 years ago

wasn't fully fleshed out, didn't catch on

but as someone who will pay people for shit, I feel like Patreon is the worst way for me to go about that

and one-off donations don't really work either

I think once a year

all content creators must fight each other physically in a battle royale fashion to decide their take of the total donation pool

it's going to happen though Pika, and you know it

I would be fine with this

once ad revenue bottoms out

and sponorship deals dry up, or are no longer available to the little guy

All that will be left is to fight over a finite pool of donations from gullible idiots

oof

rob truly is a genious. He threw away his own donation pool so that he can go manage everyone else and take 0.1% of their pools, totaling with him making the most money

really a mind beyond comprehension

Vinny, I'm curious what you think

I watch a lot of shit on YouTube

so Rob is doing multi-level marketing?

I don't necessarily believe people deserve to be compensated for it

But in the same vein, there are people who I would want to financially reward for doing whatever, sometimes

People like jerma should just be given a blank cheque at this point

If it's their full time thing I can understand why they feel the need to be compensated, however, it's youtube's obligation to pay them based on ad revenue, not the viewer's job by some imaginary metric. That said, if people want to reward people they enjoy watching, and enough people request it if it doesn't already exist, there should be some agreed upon method of the viewers supporting said content creator

I don't watch ads, I don't believe in ads, I believe in the next decade ads will substantially disapear (in the way that we know them)

Whether that be by merch or patreon or channel membership whatever the case is if the people want to support the creator the option should be there for them

I know I support a creator I enjoy a lot on patreon and have a few things from their merch store

seeing something advertised on youtube is a sure way to make me avoid the product

I would like; at the YouTube level for example, them to implement a system that allows me to set a monthly amount (say $10) And allow me to star individual videos as well as whole channels to receive a share of that amount If I want to be choosy, and only star a couple videos and a few channels each gets a bigger slice if I want to treat it like 'likes' and I star fucking everything I watch, they I'm free to use it in that way as well

flawed system, could be improved

I know

I just hate one-off donations, because they aren't tied to anything in particular, and Patreon rewards people for future work, or regardless of the quality of what they put out

or whether they do the work

I want a way to tie a financial incentive, to doing good work

And I get, the real money is in whale chasing

I mean not every patreon is blind monthly amounts

the way SummoningSalt uses patreon is the best way

offering perks for private chats or whatever on Patreon

you can do it per project instead of per month

Most are, and the ones that charge you by video might as well be monthly

The one guy I support is a workaholic so I don't have to worry about him pulling a rob

rob is a workaholic though Kappa