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You need to form a complete ideology too, you can't go anti-degeneracy but still smoke weed daily

Centrism gets a bad rap, because in America that means being "independent" which just means you can't pick a side, or choose not to participate in politics

the two party system is cancer

Centrists usually swing left in america

I agree that internal conistancy is good

and I agree that american centrists are retarded

A lot centrists are wishy washy cowards

Too afraid to take a stance on one side

As I said there are two types and the one you think of when you think centrists are retards

Why should you have ot pick a side if you dont agree with everything a side does

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it's a dumb biproduct of our electoral system

Because you don't get shit done

Again, I like and hate things about both sides

but it means there isn't really a "centre" either

since you aren't represented

What do you think is the quintessential centrist ideology?

What kind of question is the Gent

Depends which type. One is appeasement and balance, the other is try to optimize and take from different ideologies based on what is the most reasonable

I can't really give you the answer i want to give you because I dont know how to put it into words

If I had to try to narrow a defining reason someone would be a centrist as opposed to on either side that is the best I can think of off the top of my head

libertarian party

Gay weed association of america

I think you americans fucked a lot of definitions

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yes

libertarian should be left

so when I say libertarian, that means something a lot different to you then it would normally

yeah

exactly

current left is just communists

same with centrists

hell, same with left and right

literally all your politics just fucked global discussion of politics

I think it'd be fair to say, "centrism" or "independent" is the lack of an encompassing political ideology

but that's mostly down to not being represented by an established party

And then you can look beyond the west and see how twisted your own politics are

Look, my politics is hella fucked too

to me, left or right are economy terms

but I like the way we handle elections more then you do

Monarchy puts too much power into one person for my taste

a left/right divide is meaningless the traditional definition of liberalism/conservatism worked but then America had to assign them to parties, and it fucked shit up

monarchy is great if the one person is competent

monarchy with the second ammendment

The way they try to teach it these days is economic control and social control

liberalism should be the engine by which society progresses, the innovation conservatism should hold the reigns and steer society, guide its change over time

but they've become political tools by two American parties, who don't want to actually do shit

conservatives have no balls and let the insane fake liberals hold the reigns

the republlicanss are not actually conservative, and the Dems aren't actually liberal

so it balances out

Conservatives here are already close to the center, conservatives in the uk are liberals here

Conservatives here are also more liberal then both of your parties

Oh dems want to change quite a bit

remind me again what liberal means in america

Call it "liberal" if you want

the US left went so far left that the conservatives had to become center

liberal means left means degenerate fire

pika please

none of those mean anything to me

classical liberal is libertarian in the US

ah

ok

to some extent

its all a mess

it really is

its all fucked beyond belief and makes discussing politics hard because I have to translate what you fucks say in my head

stop being canadian

join the monarchy

leg vouches for it

the queen doesn't have enough power

but an immortal monarch would be an issue

In theory the queen can veto any law or decission

in canada

in practice she has no power

Dictators perform more in line with what the masses want than democracies do

depends which

and the masses don't usually want whats best for them

In a democracy you always blame the other side for obstructing and the people buy into the idea that voting does anything

Yeah but America isn't even a real democracy