lfg

Keep telling yourself that

that's like saying violent video games make you violent, gent

Eh, aggressive sure

people don't masturbate to violent games tyoically

I compare it more to cryptography If I can; using a piece of paper and pencil, write/draw something I don't see how that can be made illegal

As if words and symbols don't mean anything

true, but a seller can refuse to distribute it

This is always what I think of, back when the US banned certain strengths of encryption in the 90s

Different subjects

But see, I'm legitimately able to understand the math behind RSA

So if I wanted to, I could; using a piece of paper, write out a hash/salt table

RSA isn't really that complicated

And create "illegal encryption"

it's not, but that's what they banned in the 90s

And that's entirely different

they banned the basic example used for teaching encryption FailFish

An artist is able to; using a piece of paper, draw a loli

creating "illegal art"

A child, yes

It's not real though. it's a work of fiction gent

I can't get over the idea that I can create something, using my mind, and by putting that to paper have it be illegal

only someone stupid or easily impressionable would be encouraged to go after real children, just because of a piece of fiction

or the mentally ill

people are very stupid

It's a reflection of what our society accepts

It's 100% freedom of speech/expression though

It's always when they come after your video games and porn

gent there are books and movies and pieces of art that depict criminal acts and yet those are allowed to exist

what

Do you think I approve of all those?

Status quo arguments

what

bopit if you don't understand the subject then shut up

how do

no the bot

Talking gives you exp

p!silence to turn that off

start

I'll do this in general actually

Do it in the bot channel

I want to see my level rpogression

bot channel Bopit

good idea

I forgot that existed

either way gent, I'm all for freedom of speech and expression, so games/art/movies/etc, as pieces of fiction and expression, I believe they should be allowed no matter the subject of it. it's the consumers choice to view it, and it's the consumers fault if they're retarded enough to try doing something from fiction, in real life.

And that's when you find yourself defending james gunn and the rest of those hollywood pedos

Again gent, fiction and reality are different. I wouldn't defend a real life pedophile.

There would be less real life pedos without the outlet of fiction

I don't think so

You say that when it goes against something you enjoy

There are plenty of pedo's who aren't the way they are just because of a piece of fiction

Not an argument

There are people that are into stuff like lolis that wouldn't go after real children

Does it have an affect?

"But not all"

It has an effect on the mentally ill or those who were already susceptible to developing that behavior yes.

but you can't say it's the root cause

You're trying to blanket people into being pedos just for being into lolis, so you're hurting your argument just as much as you're trying to effect ours

No, you don't even need to have an overt mental illness

It can be gradual, it can be minuscule, but it is harmful all the same

I would also go as far to say that content like this pacifies real pedophiles, by giving them an outlet.

not all of them of course.

People can grow out of these fucked sexualities

Porn is degenerative

It functions like a drug

Know I'm kind of late to this, but the one study out there does actually support Gent

Neat

If you're basing law off of the societal good it may do, banning loli and similar things actually does decrease the rate of active pedophelia

I still think there's a disconnect fundamentally though, as I've said before

though Gent, animated child porn (loli) was a far smaller contributor than child sex dolls in the one study that's out there

(I still support both being legal though)

Banning it would only increase demand anyway and wouldn't solve the problem

I'd make a slippery slope connection between the two

If you identify someone with real, tangible pedophelic tendencies/desires I feel like it's down to personal opinion whether you think "coping mechanisms" will be more likely to reduce or increase their likelihood to rape real children

Lots of non-pedos like this shit mind you but actual pedos do as well

even then, the individual is different and a coping mechanism would have a different effect for everyone