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Yes, take everything to parody levels

Because you can never actually take things at face value

I am not apart of this conversation I was just making a j o k e

I find that whenever a government; at any point in history, seeks to restrict the freedoms it itself has enshrined, for fear of society being "too free" it doesn't achieve the desired results

not all societies have been free, that's fair

It's never perfect, but it certainly gets shit done

Don't worry spooky, gents set of morality will work this time

Yes pika, the eternal centrist

Have both sides stop being retards and I will stop being a centrist

Easy to play the critic because no ideology is without flaws

It's not a binary decision, pika

Sure its not, I chose that I will accept positions from either side that are good and reject ones that are bad while not associating with any side

because that is what resonable people do

I don't think it "get's shit done"

Not only do I think such actions aren't the job of the government, I don't think they work

So you're saying that banning guns physically would not restrict the flow of guns

Or drugs, or sodas, or anything

prohibition totally worked

I am sure a gun ban would too

^

Prohibition was on alcohol

and?

Which has been prevalent in the west for a millenium

"gun violence is down, time to celebrate" "other killings are on the rise"

Because they were retarded, and banned guns

But they reduced the number of guns

So it succeeded in doing that

The government could; by mandate, paint all the DC monuments purple, it won't get people to like purple more though

Idk spooky

but was the amount reduced more then the rise of others?

I'd like purple more then

but yes, there would be more purple buildings then

It won't, because that's retarded, spooky

because that'd be funny

What's your point here

Because a black market existing isn't enough reason to say that banning a product has no effect

My point is that moral governing is dumb, and I'm thankful we don't do it much

and I'm glad the left has to deal with that right now

Enforcing morality is the role of the government

Because people would never donate to one

I think on the whole, we are not seeing our liberties restricted in meaningful ways

which imo is good

So they enforced the morality of building roads with tax money they take from us against our will

they enforce the morality of increasing our invasive military's strength

I don't even know what kind of system you want gent. What things should not be controlled by the government when it comes to interpersonal interaction

Having a strong military is a great thing, but it's hardly "our" military right now, is it

Just enough things to where society is sustainable and moral

define moral

infact define sustainable

I think both of those are ill defined

Doing good, not killing, not abusing kids, not spreading disease, generally not harming people

and vague

Sustainable, the native population of your country is at replacement rate

And your economy is doing fine and whatnot

acting in a way for the betterment of mankind in general

Is this hard to understand?

ah yes, I too want the government to provide me a childbearing 3D waifu

Hell, throw in a little bit of environmentalism, why not

yes, define good, define abuse, what timescale for sustainable are we talking

Yes, just take it to the extreme for the meme

I am not

what is good

He did

that is vague

sustainable is colonizing other planets before we exhaust the resources and space on earth

we must become a cancer on the galaxy

Time scale? How about an average of 2.3 kids for every adult

If you want the government to encourage repopulation, you can levy all the tax-breaks on children you want, you pump out propaganda like Japan does, you can restrict the rights of women and force them out of the workforce But it won't raise your repopulation rate meaningfully

that is not a time scale

Japan is moral but not sustainable at this time

What point are you getting at other than making me be overly verbose

I am asking, is a level of control that the government should take dependent on a 10 year plan, or a 1000 year plan

pika we don't know what the population cap for Earth is so its not quantifiable

those both require vastly different levels of control

to properly do

The things that will raise repopulation rate, are so unrelated to the issue itself

should a society be sustainable forever? In that case I can see no such method except for extreme micromanagement

that a government is wasting their time trying to chase after the issue

Even if you think it's all within their right to do