banned-users

Oh wait

And available companies

That works when we do not have what, 10 companies who control everything now?

or is it less

they keep merging

I think a good relevant example

Is Obamacare

It has a very similar sentiment

The amount of health insurance providers available now

And trump is looking to deal with obamacare

is WAY lower than before

obamacare was torpedo'd before it was born

Which actually benefits insurance companies

Because they can then price gouge

He was probably elected in part because people were dissatisfied

When you encourage competition

I mean, there is the problem that obama was a fucking corperatist

The invisible hand of the economy works well

Obama is a socialist

That's the problem

no

he, clinton, et al are corperatists

and was called what it is by the people to torpedo'd it to ruin obamas image

They run on a very

Anti-rich

Anti business

message

yes

run and act

Which is a socialist message

are different

government redistribution of wealth

And assuming control of the means of production

Through major tariffs, taxes, etc

Socialism to some degree is good

not to a major degree

but complete free market does not work long term

I think it's important to recognize

The legitimate role of government

Also

And no one actually wants it to be

And never will

because it will fail

Yes

But at the same time

A large degree of it

Is absolutely necessary

Oh, do not get me wrong. I agree, capitalism is the best system we have made so far

True communism has never been tried Kappa

A 100% pure free market will end up being one mega corp monopoly on everything

I just think the best thing we have is also shit

in a lot of ways

It isnt perfect

But at the same time

bascially wall-e

It's uplifted

Such a vast majority of people

out of abject poverty

increase technology

innovation

quality of life etc

Yeah, that is the good thing. The main problem with capitalism is how unstable it is over the long term

That's the thing

with monopolies forming and what now

It's stable long term

not*

Short term

it appears unstable

It has peaks and valleys

Recessions and what not

But long term

Absolutely effective

Depends how long we are talking

Well I confess im only really speaking about America

Yeah, I always assume that when talking with people online Kappa

So

The couple hundred years

:d

I think Canada's system works. It will never reach US levels of economy, but it works. Problem is our culture

I think it's done really well considering some of what it upholds