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probably wouldn't have helped

Probably not

there were most likely at least 4 million illegals who voted in just california

There was like, 1 state that took forever due to how close it was iirc

that was michigan

because all the democrat won districts had too many votes cast

if liberals want to win the popular vote and the electoral collage, maybe not pack themselves so tightly into cities

its part of their problem

Thats the problem though, liberals do not want to not live in the cities

i should say big cities

they are fine with all piling into sanfransico and california

yeah and they then have less districts

so that those states will forever be blue

isn't that basically just a flaw in the voting system though

atm yeah

if people's votes literally don't matter, what's the point

there's going to be a flaw no matter what you change it to

the point of the system is to make the people who don't live in cities' voices matter

otherwise the cities would decide everything

Yeah

That is the problem

the majority vote is the problem?

i feel the system could be improved but i dought it will happen

and it easly could be made worse

I can explain it in Canadian terms which makes it easier to see

if Canada was a majority of vote contry

90% of our population lives within 10km or so of the US border

so all of nothern Canada would be fucked

every time

canada loves us Kappa

majority vote means the candidates would only need to campaign in the biggest states and only need to pander to the largest population areas, the electoral system makes smaller states matter and get attention

Not to mention then the influence on population centers will affect the country

but you guys are assuming that everyone in the cities then vote for one thing

so for example, New york has wall street

Sanfran is tech

thats because they do fire

these industries would dominate

and screw over everyone else

the cities are vote farms

They do though

I think it is more likely for texas to go democrat than sanfransisco to go republican

full stop

not much more likely

texas gerrymanders, thats why they are so dominantly republican

though they went red in the election

Even if most of the population lives in like, 5-6 major US cities, you have to try to make a system that does not fuck over everyone outside of those cities

I assume that is the case

anyways

yes thats the point

thats also why the senate is 2 per state and the house is population based

The major thing I like about the Canadian system over the US one is that we do not directly vote for our leader

fuck democracy

we dont either

we vote for representatives, and the party with the most representatives is incharge

delegates choose

the orgy for the whitehouse Keepo

you vote for the leader and the delegates are suppose to choose

I am aware that technically they could choose differently

they do choose differently

and quite a few did this time

That seems worse than just voting for the leader tbh

should never have allowed average joes to be politically involved

fuck this shit

like 9 went away from clinton

fire the problem with that though

is political activists and ideologues are the main people who are interested in politics

we never should of allowed fire out of belgium

there used to be requirements for voting priviledges, but the civil rights ammendments got rid of them because they were being abused

I am honestly sick to death of poltics, I wish the systems in place were not trash so I could go back to not having to watch it

For example, while I have no fucking interest in taking part in politics, I may actually have to go vote to try and stop the ontario liberals from winning

so that I am not fucked over

this makes even less sense to me tbh, how does one even get fucked over simply for another political party getting elected, that's just stupid

yes stop the commies

people are fucking stupid

Raising minimum wage to 19 dollars while cutting hydro costs drastically for 10 years so that in 20 years, you have to pay extremely more for hydro

they are literally buying votes now to fuck us later

Ontario liberals are running on the Bernie sanders free shit platform right now

after fucking us for the last however many years

i will never understand power hungry politicians and the idiot population that allow it to happen

fire its because one side gets completely dependent on government aid and the other side is forced to pay for it vs one side is lazy and has no aid and the other side doesn't get taxed to kingdom come