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And yeah, I'm not arguing with anything Spooky said,

Permitting you recognize when it's a failed attempt.

And that often leads to a ton of spitballing, wasted ideas, and wasted time, especially for a perfectionist.

Not just for the show in general, but even for a season.

Because I remember from the Unforgotten Realms season 1 DVD commentary, he straight up said he often didn't have ideas of how shit is supposed to turn out

But not something to detail the process from beginning to end, even an outline of it.

I'm pretty sure Rob rarely had a strict roadmap, if a roadmap whatsoever.

But while AFK, I thought of another thing:

I guess I said his wife specifically because that's the situation that happened.

Sorry, was AFK. Pirate, you're right about that. reorruatrnte where there is a risk of somebody just leaving

By that I mean "don't make your wife do half the work in the game if there's a chance she could leave you before it's finished"

I mean, I haven't made a game since high school, but I have made games. >_> And not just counting JRPGs in RPG Maker.

Hell, it wasn't until almost the 2 year mark was up, I think, that he was like, "Yeah, I have absolutely no idea how to get this coded the way I want the game to work, switching to Unity, have to do all the code over from scratch"

He could have, but he seemed too adamant to change the idea of the game for the most part.

And also not mixing personal life with business, to the point where your wife leaves you and you lose half your shit in the game.

He had a specific image in his head for what the game should be, but he didn't have the knowledge he thought he had to make that come to life; he would've had to either completely rework his roadmap for the game to get it out in two years, or completely overhaul the production of it, probably hiring people that actuall

He could have. That's what I was saying with him being extremely inefficient, and agreeing with Polu on the perfectionism thing

On top of that, he really had absolutely no clue on how to program the game he was trying to make.

Honestly, I think UQuest might not have turned out much different; he had all the money he asked for, but assigned his wife to do a huge amount of work. She left, he lost all her time and work investment.

This as well polu He also is kinda a perfectionist

It's directly observable going from OG Unforgotten Realms, to S1 of Unforgotten Realms on the Escapist, to the first half of S2, to the second half of S2 onward

It's not very complicated: He's extremely inefficient.

I meant the trend of putting more and more time and money into making a superficially better product

I think most people would still drop the same amount of money on it.

If the show was left how it was, quality-wise, the same as it was S1, would many people have complained?

In retrospect, the downfall started with S2, in that case.

So he went from one extreme on the guaranteed money spectrum to the other: Taking the money and saving basically nothing, trying to turn it into much more than it needed to be, to the point of detriment(in both product and state of mind), to doing basically nothing because for enough time, he could do absolutely nothin

I was gonna say, where I can I find a Z^-32-List version of Matt McMuscles to do a "What Happened?" style video on Rob?

Nah, not talking about Rob

~500k subs would be considered a Z-List Youtube celeb, right?

Oh really now.

Because the game had an "estimated delivery" of two years after the Kickstarter's end date

UQuest Kickstarter was end of October to end of November 2012

Oh, was the DvZ redux in 2013? Not when it was killed and revived the first time, but when it had been stagnant for a while and then he started hyping it more?

So he'd be getting at least a little ad revenue from all the shit on there still

If he announced it before at least mid 2014, it was pretty quiet then, I think. He was getting money from PkmnRob on Twitch, still had a chunk of money from Unforgotten Quest, I think that's right before Blip got bought out by Maker

That coincided with OR/AS releasing, which was 2014

I think the first year or so would've been a bit stagnant; while I was grabbing water I was trying to think, and the first thing I can remember him actively mentioning Patreon about was the Moody Bidoofs album, where you could buy it on Bandcamp or sub on Patreon to download it

I honestly can't remember him ever advertising Patreon whatsoever that early.

Yep, you're right, Patreon says he made it in 2013.

I thought that was the start of the Patreon in general. >_>

Yeah, the "All my friends, you can be my boss, if you give me the money I'll serve up the sauce" shit

Oh, probably

What happened between April & May 2018?

Oh, shit, my bad. I was looking at the monthly one, not daily.

The one I posted was over a 5 year period

Was his Patreon disabled for September and October or something? There's a gap between August & December 2019 on this graph

Yeah, I was just asking if Aug 2019 was when it was killed, since that's when he also hid earnings

Aug '19 is right before he killed Urealms Live, right?

It actually looks even worse if you look at just this year.