politics

but 2nd degree is just absurd

is 2nd degree premeditated

I forget

in a fair trail, manslaughter was a maybe. the rest no. But the jury was afraid

Yeah

He did that

also he's a felon now

He recklessly disregarded the fact that floyd was on fentanol

versus unplanned, unintentional killing that is not part of another felony

They can only really argue 2nd if they also argue that pinning suspects is illegal

because otherwise it was not reckless it was following procedure

yeah I really thought he'd get manslaughter

and nothing else

he's guilty of manslaughter

imo

yeah probably true. I doubt floyd would have died at that exact moment had he not kneed him

possibly later, but that is debatable

3rd degree murder is basically down to how you feel about police policy and that hold in general, i.e. he should not perform actions which carry undue risk to cause death

2nd degree murder would imply once he was in that position, he made a conscious decision to kill Floyd and took steps beyond what he would normally do to achieve that

the media was saying if he got manslaughter + 3rd degree would have been 8 years more than likely

just manslaughter would have been ~3

those feel more in-line with reality

The only one that was actually true was the manslaughter

They in no way proved intent

I feel like on appeal he loses some of the charges but keeps manslaughter

no they all get thrown out Pika

if he wins on appeal

at least in this case

and Dolf I can see the argument for 3rd degree murder being that police procedure was flawed, and the officer performed unsafe acts which resulted in death

I'm not sure I agree with it, but it's in the realm of reasonable

Fuck niggers

prosecution was that he did a restrain that was not taught (yet there's images of in some of their training)

^

to me that kind of throws that 3rd degree argument out

Not following this whole shitshow much, I wonder what the defense candidly thought their chances were

scroll up

“Thanks for dyin nigga”

No

Here we go

The defense was very solid

I'e heard the defense didn't capitalize, prosecution was bad

Defense did capitalize

Could have done better but was good

Hardest part of prosecution was they had like 5 medical experts come out and say it was the knee that did it

from what I heard

Knee didn’t do it

I did not really follow the trial

You mean

none of us are 70 year old women who watch court TV

that's the problem

Bec that would be easy for the prosecution pika

what are you talking about dolf

and on cross examination pretty much all the prosecutions witnesses where more detrimental to the prosecution

why would the prosecution argue that the knee was not the cause

You said 5 people said it was the knee so it was hard for the prosecution

I see what you mean now

that was the part where the prosecutors went in hard

my bad

poor wording

yes

Dumbass

Jewass

they said that, but couldn't prove it

the states own witness said that if she found Floyd dead, she would have ruled it an overdose

I'll be curious how long the appeals process takes

which there in of shows reasonable doubt

ultimately it didn't matter, jury was afraid of the mob

a while

Not that he’s innocent

yeah wasn't the courthouse surrounded

yes

how the fuck is any verdict considered fair

Jury not sequestered

President urging for guilty

Mayor doing the same

they were sequestered I thought

at least one of the jurors lived in the area where the other riot is happening