general

also there might be a little warming

I thought it might be something along those lines

conflict of interest and ridiculous doomsday predictions make me tend to discount anything

but we should be pursuing nuclear anyway

I mean even if we actually have a problem

and the science men are actually right

china isn't doing anything

you can accept the premise that global warming is real, but everything that comes after that is kind of nutty

if you took a few steps back, and just labeled everything as "environmental policy" it'd be less crazy

nuclear is good tho

global warming has been shown to not match the models repeatedly, and there are also stats showing a macroscopic warming cycle that we are due to be warming on anyway

yeah that's the argument that I hear from the other side all the time leg

not wanting to pollute the oceans, isn't a global warming issue

but they make it out to be

yeah

huricanes and wildfires, are not tied into whether you drove or biked to work

ending fossil fuel usage seems like a good idea, it would just kill some jobs

climate change is a stupid term because by definition the climate changes

the california wildfires are tied to retarded forestry policies

made in the name of reducing global warming

yeah

they don't do controlled burns

anymore

despite them being beneficial in the long term

all the dead shit builds up

California just controlled burned the entire west coast

and then the forest burns

it's kinda how forests work

it's a branding issue, they have half the popuation terrified of everything

because the world is "literally ending"

we're doomed

don't have kids, there is no future, the world is falling apart

meanwhile.... it's just the environment

I guess panicing people are easier to control

and the other has no idea what science is actually real because everything is going to kill you

fuck that actually makes 2000000% sense

trees and animals and water and whatnot

these things don't *really* matter

bopit its ploys to expand government control

if we're being honest

but we like them, and benefit from mantaining them to some degree

and not gay partisan funded horseshit

particle physics and cosmology are the only good sciences

wrong

bad

incorrect

thanks for trying

>trees and animals and water and whatnot >these things don't really matter

lmao

biologists can presumably bring the dead species back in the future

I don't even care about that Leg

do they matter?

I mean they matter to the extent that we need some of them to survive

I suppose you could replace them though

what do we need to survive Bopit?

with advanced science bullshit

I'm not talking about future tech

we need trees and grass and algae

make big oxygen factories that produce oxygen

then destroy all trees

food water and oxygen come to mind spooky

Just put oxygen in a bottle

temperature regulation is also important to some extent

We need to keep fucking with earth's oxygen output so we don't allow the bugs to turn giant again

yeah that's what I'm saying pika

then tell me exactly how many trees the USA needs, we have the smartest scientists, calculate that shit

rip good discussion

tell me how many we need and where we need them

also true gent

I mean on an aesthetic level, I like trees so maybe do not deforest the planet

lol

we could plant 100,000,000 trees for the cost of 1 fighter jet

iirc most of the oxygen comes from the ocean but don't quote me on that

It does, yes

And you know who's fucking with the ocean the most?

amazon is a big chunk too

so do we need more trees? is that what you're saying

china?