general

its the "use the guillotine on em" part

Do you really think the founders cared at all for the liberties of these people?

Do you think they had any grasp of just how insane things would get?

of course not

but by that argument do you think they had any grasp at how much more advanced firearms would get?

Freedom of speech is fine and good as a rule of thumb, but we all know the consequences of allowing "these people" to abuse it and turn it against us

do we?

Are you now arguing in favor of my point?

what consequences

So teaching transgenderism to children is starting to be normalized and can be argued is protected as "free speech"

and youve made no point

Or go even milder, homosexuality

just question after question

They want to just plant the seeds in the heads of vulnerable children so that enough of them will go down the wrong path in life

ok but they use that same logic with you

just planting the seeds of conservatism instead of transgenderism

Because they're evil and do evil things

which to them is just as bad

Unlike jews, I don't believe in subjective morality

what a surprise

So the main point is, when you have an ethnic group that arrives in your country and constantly works to undermine your culture, lie about their history, condition people to reject their own identity, why should I care at all about their liberties

when did that become the topic?

It was the topic the second you cried "muh first amendment"

when

I don't care about the first amendment rights of subversive liars that despise my country

ok chink

go to your country then

Can you fucks just use your 2nd amendment to settle this

This is autistic

your own personal beliefs are not the beliefs and values of america as a whole and is incredibly subversive and works to undermine the entire culture and ideology that america had in the beginning

its not a valid point to claim your own personal experiance is that of the whole

And hey, maybe my mom would've lived all her life in vietnam if a certain jew didn't create marxism

i brought up the first amendment point because you said "everyone anywhere should act the way the place they are wants"

Marx was jewish?

which is idiotic

huh and german

funny how the nazi doesnt like socialism

also funny how marx was a converted christian

Are you really pulling this "nazis are the real leftists" line

they are

or were

Do you understand the role of nationalism and traditionalism, and how strongly that goes against the left-wing

that goes against todays left wing

yes

If you want to go back to ancient definitions then the political group rebelling against the current establishment should always be considered left wing

Today those definitions are fucking useless

It's all just an attempt to associate "thing people consider bad" with the current political party you oppose

so traditional definitions dont matter?

guess you are left wing after all

They matter in the context of those time periods, they do not in most modern discussions

so the constitiution should be fully remastered?

When you say "left wing", the vast majority of people will agree on what that means

Semantics is the worst fucking argumentative topic unless you are arguing specifically about semantics

who gives a fuck what is called what

it really is

i dont understand the point of this gent

this is all purely subjective

and based in the fact of your mind

So first you proclaim it's a leftist idea to use the generally accepted definitions of the time period and now you dismiss it all as subjective

Where the fuck do you stand on anything

what

no

You said the left wing doesnt care about tradition

and then you didnt care about traditional definitions

God dolfin, you really do argue like a kike

Im dismissing all of what you said as subjective

FOR THE TIME PERIOD

and you argue like a chink

yes

the time period

Do you not understand this?

is the tradition

All three of us watch efap can't we get along

i do not care how old something is its still valid

you are the one dismissing it

not me

When the right says "liberals are retarded" they aren't using the classical definitions of it

The founders were liberals, but not at all like the modern kind

We know this, you know this