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I wish he was more of a tank and less of a carry to be honest

like

Which. Shiv or Victor?

I don't like having to carry because I simply can't do it

victor

I know why I suck at shiv its because I cant hit daggers

but I suck at victor because I don't know how to farm

I can teach you at some point, I think hes a pretty good tank cause carrying is just happenstance

Previously I played 0 dagger shiv, you just build green items and purple items that are effectively green items and dash around

I sorta like

I have this tic

where i really want to understand how and why

you build shit on a certain character

instead of just following a build that someone else made

but i'm not that smart

I'm just not as good as I wish I was

I might just bite the bullet and play paige.

I wish it hadn't come to this

Happens. I only decided to try with the last major update and went from ritualist to phantom, but even then I have a lot of time

I felt this way often, sometimes it does come down to a nerd in an excel sheet. Some stuff is (id say usually 3 items) are interchangeable each game

My friend was playing Paige last night and doing a fuck ton of dmg despite building pure support

Like actually highest dmg in lobby over carries, and he was kinda drunk

I think Paige is evil

Why is that

I do aswell, but because gun Paige gave me ptsd

You know about the 4.8k stat thing right?

absolutely not.

Almost home, so ill screenshot the example

I just had a thought polar

these are rare

it's not even really a good one but like

ballistic enchantment on warden flask

thats true

or cage ig

tbh Recharge Rush and Ballistic Enchantment are "new" and thus i dont really buy them, i was buying BE for Victors big pain aura

what's so special about it

When you invest 4.8k souls in ANY stats you get a bonus

so for gun you get 49% dmg increase

next lvl is 50, but its the minimum youd want to invest in a stat excluding some things

ye

thats why its got a lil star

i sorta just build

like

everything

on warden

i clear 4.8 really easily probably

yea, its just a good thing to keep in mind

i think spirit is eh, but i also have never checked how much spirit is a good amount

but green gives like +34% health

spirit on bimmy is surprisingly good

Whomstve is bimmy

Bimdicta?

Billy but

I changed the l to m

bimmy

the bonus health on melee hit from blasted scales with spirit

Yea I think the spirit/bullet shielding also scales with it

idk if you build those on billy even though you could

polar, i took your advice on the whole 4.8k thing to heart

the top half of my build page looks like this now

my 1600 green is usually enduring speed

it just feels nice on warden

Has it been working? I also got enduring on warden then usually a resilience

Cause that'll hold me over till I get jugg later. I like it cause youre a pseudo tank

i mean you are a tank already

you disable enemy abilities and like

you uh

the flask

you flask

flask does so much shit

so being tanky-ish on top of slinging flask constantly makes you insanely hard to kill

a general outline of my gameplan looks like this

my first buy is close quarters or sprint boots, extra regen if i'm getting my ass beat then i just buy whatever color i didn't buy at first buy (close quarters if i got sprint boots and vice versa) if the lane is looking to be particularly boring then i get monster rounds instead of close quarters for the slightly higher farming efficiency save up for quicksilver reload mystic expansion after quicksilver titanic mag/enduring speed after that then i save for like burst fire or hunter's aura and get my gun 4.8 then buy greater expansion for spirit 4.8 then i just buy whatever kind of resist will be more immediately valuable

the through line is just having all three attributes at 4.8k alongside stacking some important mid-game items that warden likes

by 20 minutes in the game

i max flask first and then binding word

i've been experimenting with putting 2 tiers into the shield before i max binding word

but that's a little more selfish