anime

I agree

You mean the namekian racial ability?

had to catch up

That is 100% not true and idk why he'd think that

because he

murdered a bunch of people

King yemma made an exception for him in the buu arc

And he's done nothing but good things through super

earlier in the chapter piccolo talks about how Vegeta is probably doing this/trying hard to atone for his sins etc.

Saving entire timelines

I think he wouldn't go to hell now

but he thinks he would

Unironically, he's a better person than goku now

gokus just a fucking moron

Dangerously stupid, uncharacteristically stupid

who can use instant transmission now

kais, yardrats, goku, vegeta?

actually

do kais even use it

They use a better version I believe

yeah thats what i thoughht

i didnt think it was the same

its cool vegeta has it now

I hope he has more techniques up his sleeve that he learned

It took goku only a year to master most of "his" techniques, everyone else should've caught up by now

they never learned it from the yardrats though

it took vegeta like

a few days?

to learn his techniques

then like

5mins to an hour

to learn just instant transmission

It takes however long the plot requires for a character to reach x level of strength

is vegeta actually more "skilled" than goku

at learning things

No

he says he is but

i dont believe it

Tbf in original db goku would master techniques within minutes of seeing them

right

kamehameha

didnt he use that like

right away

Yeah, but it was a much weaker version at first

When he fought roshi he not only learned the after image technique but improved upon it during the fight

And then tien used a technique where he split his arms into 4, which goku improved on by splitting his arms into 8

remeber when

techniques existed

some characters have them now

a lot more recently

ToP had a few

Dragon ball peaked during the saiyan saga

i think it peaked there but

frieza is

VERY high up

does feel a little long

Zenkai really weakens it for me

why doesnt

zenkai exist

anymore

And the fact that frieza does absolutely nothing for 75% of the arc

maybe after gokus

super injury here

theyll use zenkai again!

I think zenkai might be a worse plot device than the time chamber

time chamber got

really reeally bad

during buu

zenkai can work

but god

time chamber during buu was just

retarded

Well, the time chamber can at least be interesting because it's a physical place

And it requires a year of intense training in near-solitude, the only problem is that no one ever seems to be traumatized or effected at all by it

becuase

fighting

GRR

Gary Roamin Rob