rob

New DvZ sucks

yes

correct

way to easy as a dwarf

Rob's vision for DvZ died long ago

i prefered the middle ground

The older stuff seemed so free

It looked really fun

and hard as fuck for mob

mob is not fun at all in new dvz

crafter shit is meh- but the middle ground is interesting

PMC dvz was where it was at

You had this idea that every game could be completely different

PMC early BW

Also last night they revealed something that was secret for around 4 years

Player kills dont count as kills on the scoreboard

Do most DvZ fans think it started to go downhill after leaderboards got removed?

or was it later

loadout update

^

leaderboards had fuck all to do with it tbh

Id imagine it was the shitty loadout stuff

i mean new items are cool

but

just give me my DvZ

they are cool and fun to use but every jimmy shouldnt have it

Jimmy Juice, while good for new players, lead to the ultimate downfall of all long time players leaving or not having fun

there should have been some reason for you not to want to use it

which there wasnt

didnt it not protect you from uh

it was objectively the best potion

really strong hits

it heals whenever you dip below 15 hearts

because you woudlnt reach the threshold when it would heal-

oh it was 15

15 hearts for 50 mana

and sometimes it wouldnt go off

like with creeper explosions

but when you took the fall damage it would heal

also i know you mentioned it

though

mob will probably never be fun

like "really fun"

pmc dvz it was fun

it was okay

because both sides got progression trees

it was never fun

it wasnt as painful as it is now

now you dont feel like you are doing anything

well

even as a dwarf i dont feel like im doing anything

with how tanky everything feels sometimes

maybe its just me

because youre not

but until i get a proc

they will just come back

Adding ais killed it for me

imo

it feels like nothing literally happens

I liked soloing mobs

AI should of been all 1 shots or two shots

and it would of been fine

have them be weaker and slower too

there you go

he didnt want them to be that easy to proc

I played a fair bit of the gym (mind you that was only because I was waiting for golden monicle to run), I played a lot less when the ai's were added

just have proc not effect player characters as bad then

i think it was good that they were 4-5 hit if it were less then mob would be harder to progress with

Alternative, have proc instant kill ais in a radius and only do increased damage against players

if you are to have ais

not a radius

that sounds gay

btw bruce has an aoe proc

just make AIs always like 2-3 hits, proc is insta

small aoe but aoe

yes but

everyone having aoe is omega gay and just looks/sounds weird

like 1.5 blocks i believe

sorry, as rob would say, ae

I don't know if I really have anything to add, not having really played DvZ much in the last era of the game But I liked it more when the "meta" for lack of a better word, changed every couple weeks