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decent speed

Those g-max fire and ground moves don't actually trap like fire spin, so they're definitely not worth it

Can anyone just trade and trade back their Silvally

need its dex entry

just

beat the game

I hate that those aren't ears

I love how Dracovish is probably going to be the most overused pokemon in competitive gen 8

Ugliness and power have a positive correlation this gen

dracovish is cute though Kappa

I keep getting disappointed with corviknight's performance

It's getting a ton of usage, and I don't see why. If feels as though the only reason it puts in work is because people keep making teams geared towards supporting it. Or because it usually eats up the dynamax

isn't its HA the only thing it has going for it?

People don't even use that in ou, pressure is better if you're in a scenario for pp stalling

Which can actually work, that's one niche it has for itself since it also gets taunt

people actually PP stall in singles NotLikeThis

Not normally, it's just generally more useful on the off chance

This really feels like the virgin corviknight vs the chad skarmory

Skarmory was almost never used as a setup attacker, but I feel like it could pull off the role much better than this thing

Wolfey is saying that whimsicott and steadfast lucario is broken

it does look better than my HA darmanitan idea

What does that do?

beat up gives +4 attack for almost no HP

then it sweeps

You mean justified

yes

Yeah, that's a classic maneuver

But whimsicott also has tailwind support

lucario actually gets steadfast, so i wasn't completely off with the ability

seems useless in competitive though

I was trying to remember if whimsicott had a flinching move or something

beat up king's rock whimsicott

lets go

indeedee fem psychic surge follow me with zen darmanitan belly drum then switching in to stonjourner and dmaxing the darmanitan

How did no one use that in vgc?

Darmanitan in general

back in 2012 VGC?

VGC hasn't started yet

Well, that image you posted earlier, whatever that was related to

that was a local

oh i thought that was online ranked

I don't really understand all the layers to doubles

apparently the 2020 rules have finally been announced

Did you deoxys-attack is legal in smogon doubles ou?

there is no difference between gigantamax and dynamax?

gigantamax is worse but you aren't allowed to use it

It's generally worse

is this really just because of duraludon and butterfree?

Just because the only difference is the g-max move

Maybe gengar? Trapping is only kind of good when you're working with limited turns

G-Max Depletion doesnt seem that good

Not like the normal max ghost is useful

hazards are so infrequently used in vgc, and rapid spin is good now

Excadrill is basically S tier

until it gets tapped by dracovish

i didnt know we were back in gen 6 meta

I think dragapult will be up there with him

You mean gen 5

both

Gen 6 was lando and heatran as the s tiers

is excadril only popular because of the sand speed boost?

still he was pretty prevalent in gen 6

No, excadrill is just a good mon

He was, yeah

I liked using the spdef set with mold breaker

won't he die to dracovish in one shot if he loses the speed war?

The most common ones were sand rush sd and scarfed mold breaker

Due to sand rush?

i think excadrill will almost always win with speed against dracovish

Drill is much faster

what about with tailwind?

okay well duh

And really, I think strong jaw is just the best set for dracovish

of course

Giving weather abilities to the fossils is bizarre

though you could sand rush it to try to beat excadrill