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What is centrism, may I ask

anything right of communism

depends

either you think the truth lies in the middle of both extremes, or you think both extremes can be correct and incorrect and by in large are both retards

So you become a centrist, the most retarded and least correct person

how is it the most retarded option

I think if an idea is good it should be considered regardless which side it comes from

Both the left and right have good points and bad points

It's complete arbitrary to just decide both sides are wrong and the center is inherently best

I think it's practical to try and take the best of both

That's legitimately retarded

I agree

that is retarded

I think the best ideology; like Pika said, incorperates stuff that currently stands on different sides of the political isle

what is "liberal" or "conservative" changes over time

that's literally

What political isle, you mean the two opposing political parties that both support mass immigration?

The only anti-immigration stance you can take would make you an extremist

you're politics is fucked because both parties are globalist shills

I'm saying, it sucks that in America, both political parties choose arbitrary positions

and force people to then be opposed to alternatives

I’m Rusp first politics

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bipartisanism is cancer

i used the wrong word

You need to form a complete ideology too, you can't go anti-degeneracy but still smoke weed daily

Centrism gets a bad rap, because in America that means being "independent" which just means you can't pick a side, or choose not to participate in politics

the two party system is cancer

Centrists usually swing left in america

I agree that internal conistancy is good

and I agree that american centrists are retarded

A lot centrists are wishy washy cowards

Too afraid to take a stance on one side

As I said there are two types and the one you think of when you think centrists are retards

Why should you have ot pick a side if you dont agree with everything a side does

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it's a dumb biproduct of our electoral system

Because you don't get shit done

Again, I like and hate things about both sides

but it means there isn't really a "centre" either

What do you think is the quintessential centrist ideology?

What kind of question is the Gent

Depends which type. One is appeasement and balance, the other is try to optimize and take from different ideologies based on what is the most reasonable

I can't really give you the answer i want to give you because I dont know how to put it into words

If I had to try to narrow a defining reason someone would be a centrist as opposed to on either side that is the best I can think of off the top of my head

libertarian party

Gay weed association of america

I think you americans fucked a lot of definitions

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yes

libertarian should be left

so when I say libertarian, that means something a lot different to you then it would normally

yeah

exactly

current left is just communists

same with centrists

hell, same with left and right

literally all your politics just fucked global discussion of politics

I think it'd be fair to say, "centrism" or "independent" is the lack of an encompassing political ideology

but that's mostly down to not being represented by an established party

And then you can look beyond the west and see how twisted your own politics are

Look, my politics is hella fucked too

to me, left or right are economy terms

but I like the way we handle elections more then you do

I prefer monarchy

Monarchy puts too much power into one person for my taste

a left/right divide is meaningless the traditional definition of liberalism/conservatism worked but then America had to assign them to parties, and it fucked shit up

monarchy is great if the one person is competent

monarchy with the second ammendment

The way they try to teach it these days is economic control and social control

liberalism should be the engine by which society progresses, the innovation conservatism should hold the reigns and steer society, guide its change over time

but they've become political tools by two American parties, who don't want to actually do shit

conservatives have no balls and let the insane fake liberals hold the reigns

the republlicanss are not actually conservative, and the Dems aren't actually liberal

so it balances out

Conservatives here are already close to the center, conservatives in the uk are liberals here

Conservatives here are also more liberal then both of your parties

Oh dems want to change quite a bit

remind me again what liberal means in america

Call it "liberal" if you want