general

I consider myself a Virginian, before an American

OK I couldn't remember who started the war itself. It was the South who attacked first at Sumter

Gent, I don't I believe in strong, large, devolved states I think federations work

No, I agree

fire what was i saying that was shitty

I think the US should be as big as possible, and devolve as much power as they can ddown to the state level

America probably wouldn't be the world power it is today if we allowed them to secede

Man

I almost missed the politics arguement

idk about state vs federal rights, but yeah I think stronger is better

the secessionists at least weren't utter retards like the ones in seattle

Ignoring all other details, the union would have to be the aggressor for this conflict

The Confederate States were an economically viable country, the same way Texas would be if they left today

should have gone the korea route of north and south north america

we're a strong nation when we're unified

I love the claims that Texas never officially gave up being a sovereign nation

all the retarded divisiveness which has been at the forefront of politics since 2014-ish

has done more damage to out national potential than any other event could have

Thank the Obama era political revolution for that

and modern politicians (Trump included) are so terrible at injecting the nuance needed to not play one side off the other

its the degradation of national values since near the 70s, 2014 is way too recent to blame.

if Obama wasn't a shill

and stayed true to his vision

we wouldn't be where we are today

if trump built his fucking wall then did nothing else

america woul dbe great again

but appaK

he is building his wall and apparently he did nothing else in regards to corona and the riots

The GOP is in a worse state now than they were in 2016, and that's laughable

do you think social media has had a play in the division?

I love Trump, because he stands opposed to a class of people I think should be executed that's the only reason I like the guy

social media is a symptom

I like trump because he is the funniest of the outcomes that you could have had that election

Trump needs to be a stepping stone

except maybe Jeb!

Not the last red president

can’t wait for trump to get re-elected then the GOP doesn’t put a good candidate out and biden will be president

when he’s in an even worse state

a dead guy being elected will be a first

in the next 2-4 years

that is a non issue

I think Trump gets reelected, but the Republicans are lost without him

im still not sure of who i am voting for tbh

>voting

there's no one in their party, at a high level who isn't a snake

cringe

>voting

I agree with bio

go Trump so you can feel good about yourself when he inevitably wins

vote for whichever party will exctend the riots

if no one voted they can’t select a president

life hack

Conour, vote for whoever you want running the country

Connor has different ideals

not for the memes, not strategic voting

if you think your vote matters, use it like it matters

>when you don't want either side running the country

i try to think that way

He's not gonna be won over by protectionism or immigration control

do you want a senile old man who is a clear puppet or an orange old man that the evil people hate

thats why i like local elections and shit

trump is anti gamer

he is against my interests

i mean the senile old man could also be used for trump

If you don't see him ever talk on stage, then sure

he has his moments

ted cruz 2024

Conour, as someone of a different political persuasion I need to understand I don't understand black lives matter

>he has his moments

letsa drop a nuke

oh yeah it was just a moment

I think you should vote for biden, he is one of spooky and I's kind

that's ok

I talk to liberals about this, and I have this feeling deep down even they don't understand

If you're going just off of cnn highlight reels, it really paints a different picutre

i actually have the same question spooky

you really gotta watch gloomtube for 5 days straight to understand spooky