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Are you going to have a dozen scene transitions, different screen layouts, chat integration, donation messages, bit cheers, subscriber alerts, emotes, audio production, proper soundproofing/lighting, and put effort into production Or are you just going to stream

Because the former is what Twitch is offering, and the later is what everyone else is offering

Youtube kind of straddles the line IMO

I guess you make a good point there

depends on the purpose

I mean, Twitch is still technically an open platform

Anyone can jump on and Stream

But the platform is centered around content producers and personalities

one makes sense for if you want to be really dedicated or you want to make a career out of it and one makes sense for if you just want to share shit with strangers for whatever reason

People who are """professional""" streamers

yeah

professional vs non professional

I see the difference now

guess I was just ignoring the fact that someone might want to stream their life for x reason

I mean, I don't really get either kind tbh

I'd have to be pretty vain to want to do either

same here lol

And I'm not really sure what kind of person really likes either in an extreme sense

I know a lot of people here watch Twitch streams (myself included)

But I don't get how some people spend their entire day on the site, and would consider themselves a part of the autistic "communities" there

I guess part of what twitch does is let entertaining people make a living by playing video games

gives them an option to literally do whatever the fuck they want to an extent

I guess that freedom would be nice

See, I have to wonder what kind of person want the life of a streamer, especially now though

It feels like it consumes your life

yeah

I mean

Even though the hours aren't too bad, it feels like you have to be "on" all the fucking time

I could point to an example of someone who maintains a life outside of streaming

then again

most people seem to have lives outside of twitch

then again

the popluar ones are streaming constantly arn't they?

and by popular I mean really popular ones

There are a lot of points that I think must be hard for Twitch streamers

Even if they don't acknowledge it as being hard

you know I'm kinda curious how much they fake shit for popularity

I think relying on begging people for money to sustain yourself is terrible, I get why they do it, and that they have to

But no matter how conceited you are, I'm sure at times it makes them quite self-conscious

a lot of them make jokes about it

They can joke

And pretend all they want

yeah I get that spook

ya

yeah

For the top 0.1% the money is amazing

it probably wears them down

For the top 1% it's as good as a normal job

And for the rest they're scraping by, or earning far less for their time

is that so?

Even if you want to be generous

And say the top 5-10%

Are doing good

6 figure range

(It's not that high of a percentage, but whatever)

idk I feel like the general body of twitch streamers probsbly has a patreon to make money

and most of them probably do youtube too

youtube is dead

Let's write off all the nobodys

good point leg

you get no money from it

Let's just focus on the medium-large full-time streamers

What do you think they make Bopit

does pewdiepie have a patreon yet?

I have no fucking clue

PewDiePie makes millions Bopit

huh

yeah I just don't know this kind of thing

Really? He lost all his sponsorships, didn't he?

he still gets some

pewdiepie makes money off merchandise

he just lost some of them

also merchandise

yeah but how much can he make off merch

enough

I doubt it still reaches the millions marker though

The thing about YouTube, is that a channel's views are like an iceberg

The majority of watched videos are old ones

So PewDiePie get's 2-3 Billion video views a year

that is the main reason DSP did not die of starvation