toxic-normies

what

i actually think it's a bad idea to tell the majority of old dvz fans or ask them for input

Realistically I probably actually will be making a dvz discord at some point if I can find people who will moderate it

how is it toxic

mostly because it'll all be game balance

lol

and toxicity

hammer was a horrible weapon for the health of the game

imagine thinking picking two weapon types is toxic

what

hoow

aoe

Yeah you're not wrong there

hammer is fun

About the old fans

yes its fun

how was it bad for the health

I don't care about whatever other conversation is happening here

the aoe is like piddly

its for clearing mob ai swarms

rob might make you just make it a channel in his discord

aoe imo made players hate the stigma of hammer users

as they broke killstreaks frequently

and caused dwarf deaths because of that

lol

It might be while we do testing but it doesn't make sense to stick it behind a paywall for the long term

fair enough

Well shout out here if you ever do

if there is a way to bypass the damage cooldown then it would have been fine and no one would have cared

I'll get you guys Inna test we do some time

click faster thats how

because us three atleast are pretty interested

I'll use my alt do it isn't susp either

no you dont understand

also you can totally do that now

i do understand

i played during that

in 1.8 it was impossible for 2 people to do damage to 1 mob at one time

if you click faster you can 100% hit lol

yes

you cant click faster if someone else isnt clicking the same mob

the aoe isnt someones melee hitting them

im not saying you are a shitty person for using hammer

it counts as it

the game counts damage as damage

it is just melee then an abillity which hits living entities in a radius

counted*

you can 100% hit a mob in a hammer combo

not at the same time

its harder i will give you that

well yeah

thats my point

you have to wait till the next time it can be hit

which is like

.5 seconds lol

however long it is between melee hits in minecrat

.5 seconds is enough to break a proc

minecraft

is it .5 i have no idea

no im just using your number because im not sure what the 1.8 number was

either way your problem seems more with hammer than hammer crossbow

i mean crossbow was too rewarding for how easy it was to get a kill with it but hammer was worse

ill give you that it would be neat

if hammer removed i-frames on mobs the aoe hit

since that would be so easy to do

but i never had problems with hammers when i was running runeblade

just seems like a player-skill-issue to me

it doesnt matter how long the time delay was, any time delay is enough to throw off someones killing time causing them to die

especially when everyone was using hammer

if you die from one proc fail then you deserved to die lol

i didnt say that

oh

however 1 proc fail on final shrine when you are low on armor and mana

you know that time where you are destined to die

and you cant get it back because the hammer keeps damaging the mobs you target

then move lol

its not the fact that it causes a proc fail

cant move if everyone is using it

there are ai mobs everywhere

that isnt truew