toxic-normies

Rob was "struggling" when he worked fast food in-between making Newgrounds videos

I was surprised to find out he paid Roamin and Justin anything at all back in the day

I assume there's definitely some players that just get a pat on the back after the show

What Loveland?

He pays everyone on UR Live

I know

because of how much it makes

I just thought back when urealms was cool they did it for fun

Because of how free form it felt

But then I learned that that was not the case and it made more sense

They get a cut of what the show makes, I think that's different from being paid to show up

It's different when it's a stream or a YT video that only make a couple hundered bucks

But S1 Unforgotten Realms Live, made tens of thousands

Imagine accepting $50 for going on the show and then out of nowhere you find out Rob made like $20000

I’d certainly push for a little more

So I get that now

is all this true loremaster spooky

Yep, I'm trying to find the post now Pika

because I don't remember that at all

interesting

Okay, I can understand that being stressful

Handling it as a mod

The thing I dislike about what Rob is saying, is while he is totally in the right to take down LoM at any time, I feel he’s not in the right to be hard on anyone who was effected by the takedown of a heavily community driven game

He gotten worse at making posts like this

Because he's right, and he just can't explain what he wants to say

I'll disagree with you there loveland

I think he also has the right to be hard on people for caring

I think he needs to drop his woe is me I am suffering attitude though

Well think about this: what if blizzard just suddenly stopped updating world of Warcraft for no reason other than “they were tired”

Blizzard should do that and die

I see plenty of reason for people to feel pretty pissed off about that

Oh yeah, of course people will be pissed

Not saying they won't

Blizzard banned people for saying there's only two genders

I just disagree that Rob should care that they are pissed

He doesn’t have to care

Should have just ripped the bandaid, deleted the server, and moved on

It’s the fact that he actively doesn’t care if that makes sense

Robs problem is he drags shit on for too long when it should have died

But to be fair, this doesn't cost them money

Blizzard has an obligation to the consumers, these people only paid for minecraft

It would be a PR nightmare for blizzard to kill WoW without advanced notice

Isn’t blizzard ending Wow support

I admit that Rob didn’t make much off of LoM besides ad revenue and some off of the S.S. Stones

But it also was a place for the community to bond and become as close knit as it did

People wouldn’t have been so supportive of him if the urealms forums was the only way to talk to eachother

Twitch chat was the same way and he still nuked that

It was a server that people who loved Rob could hang out on thanks to him

There was about 30-50 regular people who would show up 5 hours early to a stream and talk with me

consistantly

That was their mistake

XDDDDDDDDDDDD

Saying Rob didn't make money off it is wrong

It's just whether it was enough to be worth his time

He didn’t make much is what I said

idk, he made a lot

even after it split from PMC

Idk how, there wasn’t much he could do

But... lets say it made him $20k-$30k, after server costs

that first year

I don't blame him for not thinking it was worth it

I don’t think it was worth it cost wise either

With the time he put in

But it was worth it community wise, I think

He didn't need to put the time in though

That's the thing

Also noting the literal wheelbarrel of money known as urealms he came upon

That’s also true

Rob has a lot of issues, and it leads to him having to do EVERYTHING

Both of what you two said

If Rob just hopped on LoM once a month and did a funny skit he could have a weeks worth of videos and then go right back to Urealms

Does that sound unrealistic?

Want to point out that coe also shows up on that reddit thread and manages not to come off aggressive

as an aside

Because Coe is chill

Classic

But yeah idk, I think it’s okay for people to be a little sour about LoM dying because Rob didn’t do anything interactive for literal months

And when he did it usually was to yell at someone

i agree

Get the fuck out of here