toxic-normies

thats why theres levels

But I think small streams aren't even the same thing as large streams

Small streamers should have a lot more viewer interaction

small streamers have the viewer interaction yes

its like a very tightnit community

yeah they have better communities most the time

If you're out there streaming to 100 people, I don't think you're a "streamer"

that sort of goes away at 500+

Just like if you're on Youtube like Vinny getting 100 views, you're not a YouTuber

once you reach 1k, id say youve made it on twitch

Score I got 1k on my chess video

I am a youtuber

1k concurrent on twitch

500 is still a very good amount of viewers though

500 is passable and means you are not a failed streamer

Less doesn't mean you're a "failed streamer" you're just not a streamer

You just want the people you hate to fall under the curve

5oo is good

500*

it does mean your a failed streamer if your goal is to be a streamer

streamers who have 500~ viewers still get a very nice sum of money

If they shill themselves hard Max

That's the key part

yeah, which is which 500 is an alright amount, and what I originally said was my cutoff

not all spooky

500 viewers, so say 100-200 are subs That's $250-$500 a month

Donations and whoring yourself out is how you make it rich on Twitch

Which is why ethots go there

not to mention that is probably overshooting it by a lot

20-40% viewer to sub turnover is insane

Jebaited are you sure about that

Not really though because thats 500 viewers at that moment

people pop in and out

so its more throughout your 7 hours of streaming

i watch a streamer who averages 500 viewers and has 1200 subs of which most are gifted

How many subs do you think is fair for a channel averaging 500 Max

gifted subs were a mistake

id say 100 is pretty accurate

like fire said

so 150-250 is a safe bet

twitch takes about 2 usd of subs

so its 3 per sub

Oh, they changed?

twitch literally made a goldmine of whales

its always been 2 iirc

It used to be $2.50

oh

50-50 split

I mean, the gift sub thing was smart

pretty sure it's still 2.5

i thouht the person got more

rip

bigger streamers get better deals sometimes

Big channels get better rates of course

but that is not relevant to this convo obviously

yeah okay

so what, 2.50*150

375~

thats not bad per se

then add in ads so like 12 cents

oh and bits

that too

so round up to about 400

375 a month for something you do for so many hours a day, is rough

that's per month though

well

good hobby money

not good streamer money

if you stream every day that sub count will be much higher

but yes, thats because youre growing

My only point, was that whoring yourself out is how you make it as that low-mid tier streamer

Once you're big, the money just kind of rolls in

yep

you dont even have to be a top tier streamer

1k~ is fine

Couple thousand, and I think you can be pretty secure

hey remember that time pewdiepie turned off comments

shhh dolfin