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Bruce is 3rd

Ouor’ras created the power in his son

and Virgo was 4th

Sigh

and Gwyneth is 5th

No, Ouor'ras gave the eternal flame to thor

The title of Grand Paladin can’t be had by Ouor’ras though

why not?

That’s like saying you’re the avatar of yourself

so then (even though Korra is shit) Wan isnt the first avatar

He’s like the 0th Grand Paladin

who ever came after Wan is the first

I never watched Korea

Korra*

i basically explained all you need to know to get my reference

Okay

Imagine if Hercules’s powers were a transferable thing

And whoever had his powers had the title of Champion of Zeus idk

Does that make Zeus the first champion of Zeus?

yes

sure

Why

but the thing is

Thor and Ouor'ras are both divines

Hercules is technically a divine

shut it let me explain

Ouor'ras gave Thor the flame, not the power he had that already, in order to protect it incase he died. Then Thor gave the flame, and the power, to Bruce, who did not have the power from the flame before he had it

this entire argument is explained in the first animatic from the elvish translated

"Virgo the 3rd, or 2nd depending on who you asked, grand paladin"

Some people see it as Bruce Virgo Gwyneth

Others in the Realm see it as Thor Bruce Virgo Gwyneth

Oh yeah I forgot about that line

I still think of Thor as the 1st though

Gent did i not quote that at least 3 times during this entire debacle

You just said depending on who you ask with no quotes

And said Rob said something, which I don’t trust since Rob is retarded

so adding the word Virgo triggered your memory

No no

Just quoting Nader triggered it

idk dolfin, i'm typing something else

Gent is making his list

Thats like saying George Lucas said Darth Vader is Lukes father and not trusting George because he fucked up with the prequels

Not that, something else

but either way

No no

I went with Thor as the first a year ago before this was even confirmed

If George had a lore guy on set to make sure he didn’t fuck up the lore I wouldn’t trust him

But as far as I know he didn’t

Rob does, it’s deadbones

That’s why he’s in every campaign because he’s the lore guy

And even then he doesn’t always remember

-me calling Thor as the first around a year ago

So we both agree lol

We were just arguing on the logistics

So just to be clear Things that don't make sense: -Virendra (a follower of light) is the same dragon in den of devils, which was clearly nesting on fire dragon eggs and generally surrounded by fire -The paladins somehow didn't notice the beenu catacombs, which were right on top of the den of devils -Cain is the first porc, even though he should have died of old age by the time of new crew (and should've been very famous/important due to being the first porc) Things that aren't necessarily impossible, but are stupid: -Thor tried to kills Bruce just because of a alcoholism -Thor is the first grand paladin even though he didn't fuse spirits by using final gift and didn't die -Bruce accidentally carved out the den of devils by using magma stomp -Virgo never retrieved sursurflame

But yeah unlike George Lucas, Rob interacts a ton with the community and answers lore questions.

So can get lore wrong a lot more

Hold on Love, i never disagreed with your opinion i disagred with you saying bruce cant be the 1st

but let me pick apart gent here

Oh I mean

With the “depending on who you ask” thing sure

But depending on who you ask one is right and one is wrong

And I believe saying Bruce is the first is wrong

Thor doesn’t need to fuse spirits with Final Gift

I know, but it's stupid

That’s just a convenient way of keeping the grand paladin alive since the flame is in a mortal

Its not confirmed Virendra is the dragon, just speculation as of now. Paladins thing is dumb yes. New Crew and TSK could have happened soon to this time we dont know. Also, we dont know how long Porcs live and he is technically the divine child of thor because of this lol Virgo didnt retrieve sursurflame because he lost his fuckin eye and couldnt go back it got caved in

Yeah, fuck that. There should only be 1 grand paladin at a time

Maybe

And cain was somehow forgotten by everyone by the time of new crew

They knew about the ruins but didnt know it was beenu because the pathway down got caved in previousally

Let’s be honest here

And virgo was much older

Gent

Dragon Silver

Rob just wanted Cain in for fanservice and disregarded lore

Dragon silver isn’t all that rare

But it’s possible yes

Just stupid