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I don't get how libel and slander laws, get lumped into free speech arguments

No, it wouldn't be gent. you would be defending yourself from a false narrative

if you can prove malicious intent

^

you can sue

what spook said

He said all censorship, pika said free speech

because anti free speech people are retards

Getting rid of "all censorship" is a degree further than free speech

if you really want to nitpick I guess

Neither of those examples were any good though gent

How so

yeah you shouldn't be allowed to shout fire when there is no fire in a movie theater

Yes bopit, we have decency laws

Which prevent unrestrained speech

that one annoys me bopit

and here is why

proving that speech intends to do harm, is a hard bar to satisfy

b/c that incites unessessary panic and might result in people getting injured

it is not the act of saying fire

something being illegal and being censored are two different things

but it's such a rare corner case

go to a theatre and say fire, you can

it is the act of causing panic

that is the illegal part

it's the intention to do harm Pika

yes exactly

If that guy wants to scream fire when there's no fire he can but he needs to be ready to face any consequences of his actions

if you legitimately believe there to be a fire

it's fine

@Phijkchu_Dialga Does that include being arrested?

yeah

Gent do you know what censorship is

It's when the Jews kick you off YouTube

Tell me what you think are reasonable consequences dialga

For causing mass panic? Depends

being arrested isnt being censored

do people die?

No spooky, that's actually allowed by the free market

that is censorship too

Being arrested is absolutely censorship

no it isnt

And Dialga, I hate that argument I hate every time someone posts that gay xkcd comic about "speech has consequences"

I mean you might not intend for people to die is the thing pika

If you're behind bars you can't communicate freely with others

How fucked are your prisons if you can't have visitors

So do I spooky, and I'm clearly not on the freedom side

imo intent is more important than the actual result

Oh okay, at least you get visitors

Now prison's fine