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has no baring on speech

advocate for it all you want

I agree with pika

How about people slandering you?

right would probably be just as bad as the left if they were in control

preventing the eploitation of children is different than censorship gent

is it criminal slander? Sue them,

also loli art is fine yes

if not, then they can say what they want

What if a major publication decides you're a rapist and publishes a story on it

That would be censorship to sue them

sue them, damage of reputation has remodies

I don't get how libel and slander laws, get lumped into free speech arguments

No, it wouldn't be gent. you would be defending yourself from a false narrative

if you can prove malicious intent

^

you can sue

what spook said

He said all censorship, pika said free speech

because anti free speech people are retards

Getting rid of "all censorship" is a degree further than free speech

if you really want to nitpick I guess

Neither of those examples were any good though gent

How so

yeah you shouldn't be allowed to shout fire when there is no fire in a movie theater

Yes bopit, we have decency laws

Which prevent unrestrained speech

that one annoys me bopit

and here is why

proving that speech intends to do harm, is a hard bar to satisfy

b/c that incites unessessary panic and might result in people getting injured

it is not the act of saying fire

something being illegal and being censored are two different things

but it's such a rare corner case

go to a theatre and say fire, you can

it is the act of causing panic

that is the illegal part

it's the intention to do harm Pika

yes exactly

If that guy wants to scream fire when there's no fire he can but he needs to be ready to face any consequences of his actions

it's fine

@Phijkchu_Dialga Does that include being arrested?

yeah

Gent do you know what censorship is

It's when the Jews kick you off YouTube

Tell me what you think are reasonable consequences dialga

For causing mass panic? Depends

being arrested isnt being censored

do people die?

No spooky, that's actually allowed by the free market

that is censorship too

Being arrested is absolutely censorship

no it isnt

And Dialga, I hate that argument I hate every time someone posts that gay xkcd comic about "speech has consequences"

I mean you might not intend for people to die is the thing pika

If you're behind bars you can't communicate freely with others

How fucked are your prisons if you can't have visitors

So do I spooky, and I'm clearly not on the freedom side

imo intent is more important than the actual result

Oh okay, at least you get visitors

Now prison's fine

don't commit illegal acts if you want to not be in prison

And Dialga, I know what you're trying to say with "censorship"

but I think there's a better word for it

I'm not sure what the word is

but more akin to something being "black holed" not censored

Can I rant about how you americans fuck the idea of free speech too

Try it cuck

When jewdeau will confiscate your kids for trans rights

any time someone uses the word I always see the same retarded retort of "free speech only applies to the government censoring you because le 1st amendment"

fuck off with that shit free speech is also an idea beyond your laws

and applies to more then that

No Pika, America is the only place on earth with free speech, dontcha know

hang on pika what

That's called enforceable free speech, pika

who makes the argument that it only applies to the government or whatever you just said

Dialga every fucking time I see that someone gets kicked off twitter I see at lease one retard if not many claim it is not anti-free speech because it is not the government

(mostly the left says that but still)

it annoys me

American Democrats say it a lot, when defending """private""" companies doing something that undermines free speech