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and it flows well if you know exactly where you're going

so you press the button, then quickly move your mouse in the bottom right direction for example

then you have what you want

Even Dishonored, I never felt like I actually used all the skills

which is why radial wheels are never my favorite

as a menu, they're great

now this

is bad

and yep, still have nightmares of that

also in dishonored its hard to use the skills unless oyu know what you're doing/WANT touse them

and it doesn't help you're persuaded to not use killing

when all the abilities want you to kill

but I think that's what makes them interesting, do you give into your inner kid and go fucking wild

or do you keep it up

Despite me enjoying the non-lethal options in dishonored2

i feel like it ruined that fact

that non-lethal restricted you

It's the Deus Ex problem, pacifist is more fulfilling in almost every way

but lethal gets all the cool shit

I feel like I kinda like that though

because if they're equal it doesn't feel as good/challenging to do nonlethal

Like dishonored2 literally becomes

do you press the left click to kill or th eright click to spare

and it feels non-impactful on gameplay

Cyberpunk will be really interesting, how they draw that line

because I think the non-lethal tools will be far, far lacking

I hope they are too

or if they have ones that aren't lacking

they don't pull a dishonored and it's just the same tool but "non-lethal"

The problem is, that you reach story beats, where it doesn't make sense to remain a pacifist pussy

ie, Deus Ex, when they shoot down your helicopter

but you're punished for fighting back

which sucks

yeah that's where games that require a super strict route for "pacifist" or good

suck

moving back to dishonored (sorry lol), even if you kill a bit, you see your effects and are allowed to try to change it before the end

but some games, you're just fucked

That's what great about that game, the "routes" aren't black or white completely

there's leeway

you're gonna laugh

but that's exactly what shadow the hedgehog is

lol

truly a game ahead of its time

I'm not sure how you did it

damn

not here

but you made Shadow the Hedgehog seem deep an nuanced

it unironically kinda is

and it makes me mad

I mean sure it's an absolute joke

What's that

I can't hear you over my hedgehog game with guns

but it actually has its points, I mean by the end you can get a "good" "bad" or "neutral" end

but the inbetween is very gray and interesting

So, my favorite exxample of this was a DS game

Valkyrie Profile

honestly, amazing game

but the whole game has 3 "routes"

and as you sin you move up/down routes

three

houses

hey that sounds like

as a kid it blew my mind though

shadow the hedgehog but worse

kappa

because on playthrough 2, characters who I knew would live

were getting killed

and I was so confused

shame theres a true ending though

hey its almost like

old games did things better

also, if you were good enough

you could avoid the game overs

and the the secret ending

OKaY But WHAT ABOUT

UNDERTALLLLELEEEEE

kappa