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CCC is the best pseudo singularity

not sure why it's just not permanent

since it counts as one

CCC > Salem = Shinkuku >>>> Shimosa = Agartha

so what classes are unessessary?

ruler

ruler and alter ego?

Alter ego

what about moon cancer?

and foreigner

and moon cancer

and honeslty you dont need avenger

Avengers are a good base damage dealer

that you can bring anywhere

here

but muh Jeanne D'Alter

study up

Oh right

your starter servant is actually really good

yeah I got one of those

is berserker good against saber triangle or just rider triangle?

boh

both

everything but

shielder and forienger

and everything hurts them but shield

yes

Extra class tierlist: Avenger = Moon Cancer Ruler = Shielder Forienger Alter Ego

so avenger is the only good extra class

i actually think the quality of moon cancer puts them next to avenger

but

I assume berserker is on top tho?

whatever

I mean the class alone

Pinned a message.

The servants in the class however

Make mooncancer equal to avenger

I guess I should rate on that

avenger as a whole is actually pretty shit

It is

actually nvm

only dantes and jeanne alter-

space ishtar got released

it balanced out

okay I guess I'll fiz it

is avenger just bad b/c matchups?

No

Most avengers just don't do enough damage to warrant it

buff nobu

please

Avengers have big NP gain and high damage

problem is

all but 3 suck ass

and even then, dantes is only good in some situations, jeanne alter gets fucked by break bars, and space ishtar is situational

rulers best class

ez

eh

Jeanne and Sherlock

in arts teams

rest are meh

Amakusa is certainly situational

yeah

he's much better as a foe

fuck his np

FUCK IT

TWIN

ARM

BIG

CRUNCHI

NO

Qin Shi Huang is pretty good on arts as well

not sure about Lion King Ruler

She uh

eh

amakusa is better

she gets card reset

but eh

we should make our own tierlist