lfg

so the general content is still doing fine

but actually good videos

are dying

My problem with Twitch, is that it's ALL about the money There are still plenty of YouTubers who do it to make videos

That's my one major problem with most Twitch streamers

hey, my streams are passion projects spooky

not all

Not all.

but most

That makes me feel like

you've watched like 5 streams

and 2 were ethots

even though I know that's not true

Or you REALLY hate when people thank for money

okay, lets rule ethots out of this discussion, I agree with what spooky said regardless of including them or not

I'll avoid getting too deep into this

I also think you don't like streams

at all as a medium

Max, I used to watcha fuckton of streams

I do not have the time anymore

I don't watch a lot of streams true, mostly for lack of time

Talking abvvout spooky

but if I did I still wo...

ah

alright

I know you like them pika

my bad

I like streams though, as a concept

(hell I watch efap so really I am the stream expert here)

I really don't like how they feel like people begging for money though

even when it's subtle

Okay but

the person you're watching is shit

if they beg for money

I usually unfollow if they do that

or click off the stream

basically, twitch has a subset of streamers who are top tier funnymen

I watch Trihex a lot, if I had to pick one I actually watch currently

jerma, I'd place the main vinesauce people, etc

then a teir of midteir people who have their moments, then a massive bloat of trash, then ethots

youtube has the same problem

I think Twitch( the company who runs Twitch.tv) has a lot of problems

sure

I think YouTube has problems too

it is a lot more about money

OH

another big thing money wise

if you have three streams or four you're streaming too, and you're getting money from all of them

that's a pain to keep track of

how

All of them having their own systems?

I assume facebook has its own donation feature

I trhink you guys

underestimate how hard it is

to keep track of three chats

unless you just ignore an entire subset of viewers

So let me frame it like this

inwhich case, why are you restreaming

because in theory it can give you a bigger reach

fuck it, ignore facebook

Or,

twitch can give you front page

just youtube and twitch

because partners can get front page if theyre good

which gives you +10-20k viewers

and they give it to people with like 500 viewers all the time

yeah facebook has a donation thing similar to superchats

hey kurt

also

youtube live has horrible discoverability

https://i.imgur.com/IUvIb5Q.png

mmmm

not arguing that twitch is not better as a streaming platform

https://i.imgur.com/TyhFpCg.png

For a large streamer, I feel like engaging chat is a token effort (not counting paid shit) For a small/medium channel, I think the approach is to designate a chat as "main chat" or to combine them via some 3rd party plugin

large streamers can have good chat

see jerma or joel chats

define large

chat for the viewer, sure