The server costs for that many Red5 encodes can't be cheap
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Tuesday, July 31, 2018
its clearly a drug front
Even if they didn't go subscription, I feel like if they sold their UI/code like some other companies do, they could make a killing
Dacast and Flussonic both do that
And they're a mile behind Rabbit, despite being what most commercial entities use
how the fuck
do they even make money
I can't find any ads?
They don't
The costs aren't that crazy to be fair
they pay their employees though...
Venture capital
below-board illicit activities
they probably sell data
duh
Not enough to make back costs
that's how you make money
I guarantee it's venture capital money
If I were Rabbit and wanted to be profitable,
I'd limit what the site itself did for free/general users, and begin selling the packaged configurations as a part of a subscription, as well as prefab servers for commercial use
Not a billion dollar industry, but that's a couple million a year more than likely
Venture capital though, makes me think they want to become a social network
Grow a userbase and get bought up by someone bigger, and make an exit
Would you look at that, Spooky was right
oof, they're probably not too good on the money front
I'd estimate they gave away 40% for that $3.3M seed back in 2013
That money should be nearly gone by now
what's a seed ha ha
If we were to assume they're getting free/discounted servers from one of their VCs
I'd put them at under $500,000 left
Woah, I had no idea this is what Rabbit's original idea was
https://beta.techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/rabbit_sharepad.png?w=640
They wanted to be an always-on FaceTime knockoff
Media sharing was an afterthought
huh
the Rabbit team hopes that its alignment of circular video chat windows, which makes you feel like you’re talking directly to someone, as well as its mix of media sharing and ease of connecting with their existing social graphs, will get users talking to one another. And maybe leaving the app on in the background all the time.I think they envisioned it being random people too, for a large part
So a cross between chatroulette and FaceTime
So like, imagine scrolling through Facebook, and having these embedded circles floating around, of live video feeds of the people currently on the page you're scrolling though
I'll pass
I can't tell if they mean other people looking at the same page simultaneously, or of the people whose page it is
The idea really was "always-on" though
So whenever you're at screen, you'd be showing up for evryone else who was looking for you
huh, this is really interesting
it seems like that hasn't worked out for them so much
Well, they 180'd it would seem
yeah
few companies have been able to convince users to embrace the technology in the kind of persistent, always-on model that Rabbit envisions. In fact, most recent video chat companies — including Sean Parker’s Airtime — have had little luck converting Facebook users into big video chat junkies.so from what you were saying it seems like they might go down sometime in the near future?
This is a few years ago now, but I remember talking to the creator of Periscope around when they launched
It's weird how many people have this idea that every moment of your life should be streamed
Even if no one's watching
that just sounds intrusive
You know what Periscope is Bopit?
never heard of it
but from the name
It's a phone app that launched a few years ago
Much like the old Livestreamer/JustinTV sites, but mobile skinned
It's what most people use to livestream on their phones, if they're not doing a Facebook Live stream
so was it like what twitch streamers do with irl streams now?
It's still around
huh
Twitch is very different
twitch is kinda stealing their niche now tho
why do you say thay?
It's like saying Twitch and Facebook Live compete
They don't
I guess I don't know much of anything about facebook live
Bopit, if you wanted to stream, how would you do it?
other than it probably panders more towards normies
twitch probably
How would you
Like, what would the stream be like
never thought about that, I value my privacy and have never had the desire to have strangers watch me do stuff
if I did ever stream it would probably be for video games
Are you going to have a dozen scene transitions, different screen layouts, chat integration, donation messages, bit cheers, subscriber alerts, emotes, audio production, proper soundproofing/lighting, and put effort into production
Or are you just going to stream
Because the former is what Twitch is offering, and the later is what everyone else is offering