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What's the savage/ultimate raiding scene like? I wanted to get into savage back HW, started as gladiator, got to 60 as PLD, got geared through tomestones, normal raids, ex trials, only to be told "nobody takes PLD to savage, doesn't do enough damage, roll WAR or DRK," so I grind WAR to 60, then get told "lulz n00b gtfo go get str accs & pentameldz" and I never really cared to bother

But I spent probably ~40 weeks a year for about 4.5 years straight mythic raiding in WoW after that, doing way more and way worse to be able to raid, so I think I can handle something nowhere near as much of a time investment for preparing, and from what I've seen on logs, most jobs within their role seem to be pretty well balanced, unlike WoW where you can be OP one patch, dogshit the next

When you have so little variation in secondary stats because of so few pieces of gear around the same ilvl per slot, no choices to make for jobs like you do for talents, covenants, soulbinds, etc in WoW, and don't try to reinvent the wheel entirely every single expansion, with tacking more shit onto the wheel every major patch, it's a lot fucking easier to balance, I'd imagine.

How much of an investment is there to get into it & prepare? Like, on a weekly basis.

In the immortal words of J. Allen Brack, "You think you do, but you don't." Nah, not gonna be snobby and say you definitely don't, but I don't

It's fucking awful trying to run the same dungeon or two, over and over, wasting time, consumables, and gold because you need to get a weapon from a 10+, or killing a boss 12 weeks in a row and never seeing a piece of gear you need of it drop, because you need haste the most, mastery second, and crit and versatility are dogshit for you, and that's the only haste/mastery helm at that ilvl in the game currently

I highly doubt I'll make it to savage this tier; I just started Stormblood tonight.

How expensive are food & pots for a week of raiding? Or at least how expensive were they in ShB? And is it super expensive to buy them from other players, compared to leveling crafting jobs and making them, or just a cost?

Yeah, even in HW it was a lot more approachable than the 4.5 years I spent mythic raiding in WoW, I was just discouraged because everyone I asked said PLD was the best tank to play at endgame, then upon reaching the point I could do savage, everyone is like "no, it doesn't do enough damage," then after grinding 45 levels of WAR, I was told I needed to get a new necklace, bracelet, and rings, so I just was discouraged.

What do you main?

I was thinking of leveling monk or samurai when I check out melee. I'm currently playing warrior, about 800k xp from 71(hit 70 right before starting Stormblood ._. ), have PLD, WHM, and AST at 60, thinking of leveling BLM for caster & BRD for ranged

Real quick, I have to mention that it was so fucking stupid that WAR and DRK got tank stances at 30, but PLD got Sword Oath(a horrible offensive stance, imo) at 30, and Shield Oath at 40.

You have your battle turtle sword-n-board class, focused on mitigating as much damage as possible, not have its threat & mitigation stance until 10 levels after the other two, that do more damage, therefore are able to hold aggro easier outside of tank stance.

Yeah, even what I have right now, I really like, but it looks like it gets even better up to 80 and 90

Busted good or bad?

In relative DPS? Or personal as well?

Okay

Sorry, I was just using the terminology I've seen people use

I think fflogs has it as rDPS and aDPS

I'm nowhere near a flavor of the month player, but I like what I'm playing to not be absolute shit when I'm playing well, so even if it was lower DPS than the other ranged, as long as an 85th percentile BRD is close to an 85th percentile MCH and DNC, I'd be fine

Yeah, what the hell is up there?

Is the bigger change to their potencies than PLD and WAR because they use both physical & magical damage?

Sorry, I was asking if they got a bigger reduction to their potencies because they made physical & magical potencies use the same formula

I have DRK at 45, and I already didn't really like playing it because of having to juggle restoring HP, restoring MP, and dealing damage. With PLD, it was just "mitigate damage while doing your rotation, lose a GCD to heal now and then," WAR was "do your rotation, 1-2-3 heals, 1-2-4 gives damage buff," but DRK is like, "getting low on health? 1-2-3. Need MP faster? 1-2-1-2. Need more damage? Use MP. Need more damage while low on MP? Well, guess you better regen MP. Oh no, you tried to regen MP too much, now you need to 1-2-3 again!"

It probably gets better later, but it just feels awful at lower levels, and I don't experience that with PLD or WAR when synced lower.

It honestly feels like DRK had more buttons at level 50 in HW than it did at 80 in ShB.

And not just ones removed through turning some skills into traits, turning some into role abilities, etc

Like, wasn't there a fuckton to Dark Arts before?

Also, does Yoshi-P just absolutely hate DoTs?

Like, the complete SMN rework, that's one thing, but it seems every DoT that still exists has been nerfed besides the low level healer ones

I'm pretty sure the BRD ones last 15 sec longer but have half the potency

That's a significant damage loss, because you're doubling the potency, but only increasing the amount of ticks by 30%

err, halving the potency*

30 to 45

Wait, I don't know math

thats 5 more ticks, not 3 more

Okay, so if its 50 pot, 30 sec, 10 ticks, 500 pot. 25 pot, 45 sec, 15 ticks, 375 pot

So it lasts longer, but does 75% of the damage.

75% of the total damage over a longer duration.

Did you have to DoT each target individually? I stayed away from shadow priest in WoW because it was an absolute beast for all of Legion, but I HATED using a GCD and 1.5s(before haste) applying Vampiric Touch, another GCD for Shadow Word: Pain, swapping target, repeating for every single target in a fight

I wanted to try BRD when I started playing in 2015, until I found out that you had to hardcast everything starting at 52, so I stayed away from ranged until returning and saw that they decided to get rid of that.

"Mostly" freely is the problem.

It's because with the best possible connection you can have, you're running at a minimum of 250-300ms

I dunno, everyone I've seen has said they definitely experience some latency

I meant between the time you press a button on your client and the time the server registers it, sorry

Cuz right now, I can pop a defensive, and the delay between the time I press the button and the time the animation starts for activating it is SIGNIFICANTLY longer than when I activated an ability in WoW with 30-40ms

It feels longer than when I played with 120-150ms

I don't have a problem with hardcasting, I'm just like

"...Why would I bother playing this for 51 levels, moving freely, then have to hardcast or do absolute shit for damage? Why not just play BLM in that case?"

Yep, I heard people were mad that BRD got to do good damage in ARR while moving freely, so they made them hardcast in HW, and then they did MASSIVE damage.