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https://twitter.com/Riddler_Khu/status/1597035138856386562
Guess this wasn't true.
Gent
Iron bundle is mid
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/palafin-and-iron-bundle-are-banned-from-sv-ou.3711440/
Shedninja ban.
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/national-dex-metagame-discussion.3710848/#post-9402698
He's a really good tank, and with the protean nerf and the duck not being so good, Skeledirge defensive Tera is seeing a lot of use.
Skeledirge might be the best starter for competitive as long as Tera doesn't get banned.
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/flutter-mane-and-houndstone-are-banned-from-sv-ou.3711131/
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1715607447
Marill came out first.
taxes
AZURILL ISNT WATER TYPE???
It's 20,000, so it better.
Gent
Throat spray is consumable, so if it's expensive but it's used up every time that's not worth it
You can also get Throat Spray in one of the first shops, Delibird shop I think.
Gent
Skeledirge with throat spray gets to setup very quickly
Yeah it's better, especially since you have swords dance.
taxes
defiant procced a lot for me
Many opponents have intimidate in this game.
I found Kingambit swords dance better than his ability.
If you want false swipe, Kingambit gets it and swords dance.
I wasn't looking.
Gent
I'm glad you replied to that one
You can glide over.
taxes
because its inside a literal fucking mountain
They have been talking about you every single time I got in voice chat.
Is this the Max I've heard so much about?
Guess stall isn't that dead.
Number one team on the ladder right now is a stall team.
Another!
It's hard to have a good perspective on what's fine or not when half the meta is Hyper Offense right now.
Fair enough.
Game of the year.
https://vxtwitter.com/t_a_b_e_r_u/status/1593614067847278592
I wish Kingambit was better, it's so hard to use him.
Roaring Moon tera steel into DD is disgusting.
Well it doesn't help that the other terrains aren't as fleshed out.
Loving it so far, was not expecting the goofy worm to be as good as it is.
Also, have you seen how good Orthworm is?
That happens a lot too
Many bans in the past however, were based upon how it effected stall or slower styles of play, and it's harder to do that this time around.
Well it's not about that, I do think it's good for it to be balanced
and Smogon's format has always really resisted that.
The other issue is that, this game is obviously built around Hyper Offense
First bans are coming Monday, I don't think tera will be banned for a while at least.
It's hard to play around right now because no one knows what people will do.
Well, we'll see how the game evolves. People want tera to be banned but I think that's dumb as fuck.
They can also one shot it.
With Flutter Mane and Chien-Pao around
From most of what I've seen so far, Roaring Moon needs setup, usually DD, to get into a spot where he can do good.
Roaring Moon is still good, but it has issues
Yes they do?
If most Paradox Pokemon stay in OU, it might actually be OU-BL
Roaring Moon's issue is that Chien-Pao, Flultter Mane, Iron Valiant, and Iron Bundle all counter it pretty well.
Gent
Paradox mence is way better than chomp, but anything scarfed that’s weak to ice feels bad because of the leopard