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But the entirety of human knowledge is stored online the entirety of our collective culture, our art, our media, our ideas, and whatever other bullshit catch-alls fit here I think it's crazy the amount of paywalling that goes on, but I realize that it's the system we have now,

I'm aware of that

I don't think a majority of people agree with me

neat idea

interesting, I like it

people wouldn't adapt fast enough

there are ways to make it work, but by in large I agree Rusp

maybe this thinking breaks everything, idk

but if digital content, which can be stored and reproduced for free, infinitely has no value, can't be resold, can't be repurposed, can't be anything

That's what I can't get over, call it a simple-minded view of the internet or whatever

does that folder of music have any worth

same question

ok, replace $10 with $5

if you pinky-promise to delete your copy afterwards

can you sell your folder of songs for $10 Pika?

Rob's still selling it I assume, it's still available for $10 on bandcamp (I'm not checking rn)

what is that worth

you have a zipped folder of all his songs

put that aside, you have legally purchased Rob's music album off band camp

can you?

Pika, can you sell me your moody bidoof album?

Rusp, I think there are plenty of ways to make money off digital goods, but I think digital media cannot reasonably be worth anything

I suspect you think 70 years is bullshit

do you not hold similar views on trademarks and intelectual property Gent?

I can't fundementally get on board with charging for digital access to digital goods

I pirate a shitload of games, I don't buy them out of some moral obligation, I buy them when Steam adds value I spend money on music streaming because it adds value, etc.

you say that, but I think I spend more money on games/music/anime than anyone here

doesn't make sense to me personally

I can monetarily support an artist/band I like, but paying for digital reproductions of your work

and the apps they keep updated

Spotify, Pandora, etc. add vaue through their cataloging of music

I don;t think digital music has value in and of itself, I think paying for digital albums on bandcamp or wherever is insane

ok, let's not talk anime then

Rusp, I don't get how it can have value,

it's wrong

you're depriving someone of something

theft of something physical and finite, makes sense

I don't think I quite get your defenition for theft

I was reading what you wrote Pika

can be theft

I feel like I'm more radical than most people are on that, I just can't wrap my head around how digital reproduction of media

The places where I think they could add value, are so few and far between

I'll be honest

I don't think there is a system I would pay for

but it's really what I think

I do not think I'm morally obligated to pay for digital reproductions of media, call me a communist for that view

I don't think it's stealing, and do not believe you have any imperetive to pay for something digitally, so long as you are not seeking to make a profit off of it

not in a meme way either

I disagree with all the points, ethically

oh my bad, I didn't see it before