politics

Rib surgery sounds painful as fuck

less than that hip one would, cant walk for a year after that one

the muscles and fat in the hip regiod do a lot of work. feminization surgeries are most effective where you are removing body, not adding. ie shoulders, waist. not that the hip surgery wouldnt improve feminization

balance weight gain right while on hrt youll fill in in the right places

Becoming a freak of nature to satisfy a fetish, shit like this is no different than when the furries cut off their fucking hands so they can put on the paws

Why is laughing at one normal and fine but I tell someone doing this their a fucking freak and suddenly I'M the bad guy

Well actually the opinion on that has been changing recently I think so now I'm just pretending to be a victim

Fuck

i think people should be allowed to do whatever they want with their bodies. its neat. also neat when you assist in pioneering new medicine or expression, a permanent legacy

I mean it is a choice you make

Nope

sorry guys gent said no

forget I said anything

I think if you want to cut yourself up to get off you should be given therapy instead

Instead of being allowed to go through with it and proclaiming the greatness of it to impressionable people that might think "hmm, maybe this will fill that void!"

It's always "they aren't hurting anyone", but they always are, even if indirectly

Most of these people do not even have thoughts of wanting to be trans, they just want to fit in somewhere

When you give an insane person everything they ask for it's really not surprising when they then go on to further harming themselves and everyone around them

if hope if anyone else ever listens to me and somehow subsequently its my actions that lead them to make permanent decisions thay they first consult with professionals. buf i also believe thay i should be the the executive of myself, and so you should ne the executive of yourself

I understand that really, but I generally think that many of the people going through with this are not in the proper mindset to be making such life altering decisions

yeah, i hope thats not the case

I think a lot of my problems with the culture around this would be alleviated if they actually were more strongly recommending alternative options

It's just that, pharma wants to make a buck

And well, when you gotta take meds the rest of your life....

Tell em to cut it off!

fairly sure we are far beyond strong recommendations for the alternative

It's always "absolute freedom at any cost" for the stupidest most degenerate shit

I think as long as you get auto denied any medical care ever, spend money however the fuck you want

even ignoring the medical industry, society itself makes it damn hard ti be trans, which is in some ways a good thing, maybe weeds out those who got caught up in something

"mild cold, get out you got the hip widening surgery"

The problem is that we are even allowing this to begin with

I think that is the most fair balance of letting people do whatever the fuck with their money and not making it other people's problem

Biology makes it damn hard to be trans

allowing what, consenting adults making decisions with their own bodies that affect them and only them?

They're insane people who go on to prey on children

idk, to steelman gent, I have to see it so it does not affect only them

Not really steelmanning

wrong phrase

You're stealing my talking points, man

You heard of man of steal, today it is steal of man

Hey no need to bring up hasan piker again

I think a lot of people try to pin the blame of trans suicides on the fact that they get bullied and etc, and sure, that probably accounts for... a measurable amount of it? But the reality is that most of these people are of the most vulnerable subset that exist within society from the outset

Drawn in by thinking they might finally find something that makes them feel better

I think people who are mentally fucked enough to get elective, not neccecariy surgeries are already hugely predisposed to just killing themselves

Yes, exactry

More stealing of my words

There is also a subset of trans people who get the surgery, realizes it did not make them feel better about themself, then still kill themself

so I think the "it reduces harm" arguement is negligable at best

I am sure statistically there is a percentage of trans people who once they get the fake vagina do feel better

This is why I think they should really push harder for alternative options